Where all them Dillon XL 650 users?

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Just a general question for members that load 9mm using a 650XL. What additions did you get? - good investment or bad?

Some of the things I'm looking at adding are:
1) Powder Check Sensor (in the brass)
2) Case Feeder
3) The metal stand for added height
4) 4 extra primer tubes
5) Dillon Roller Handle (Aluminum)
6) 9mm dies


Thoughts? - PLEASE REPLY ONLY if you use a Dillon. I'm not looking for what you think might work.
 
I have all of the above except for the stand. Having powder check, case feeder, and extra primer tubes really speeds up the reloading process substantially. The roller handle saves your hand when loading a large volume. Those are all good items to get. The stand is optional depending on how high your reloading bench is and if you want to sit or stand.
 
If you use the powder check, you need a seat/crimp die as one (if you go with a bulletfeeder too, I use the double alpha mini bulletfeeder and won't go without it now) I have found that the dillon sizer die has a more pronounced lead in than regular dies, and gives no hangups when going at a decent speed. Since I already had rcbs. dies, I just bought the sizer alone.
 
At the moment, I'll pass on the bullet feeder even though it looks amazing. Just not in my budget this year, could be something I add down the road. As for dies, I currently have Lee carbide dies, could I just use them or are the Dillon ones better?
 
Euro said:
At the moment, I'll pass on the bullet feeder even though it looks amazing. Just not in my budget this year, could be something I add down the road. As for dies, I currently have Lee carbide dies, could I just use them or are the Dillon ones better?
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Dillon's are more convenient once you set them in the press you can remove part of the die to clean etc without having to readjust due to the way they are assembled
 
I figured id for go the case feeder... that lasted 3 months, speeds up the process so much and i dont have to worry about constantly filling the tube. I had to go with the strong mount as the way my bench is made i didnt have the 3/4" gap needed for a full stroke. I currently have my eye on a quick change mount setup from inline fabrication, as i like the quick ability to swap out presses and maybe put up a vise.
 
All of the above minus a bullet feeder, plus a Lee tripod loader stand instead of the Dillon mount. Works great and easy to setup with no need to bench mount the loader.
 
I added the shell plate bearing kit, spent primer kit, roller handle, lots of primer tubes, and a bullet feeder. I preferred to keep my seating and crimp die separate - much easier to set and adjust. With the bullet feeder in station 3, I concentrate mainly on a smooth down stroke, a firm push stroke to seat the primer, and visually checking the powder level in station 3. I also added the micrometer powder bar kit to a couple of my powder measures. They are really handy for working up loads and quickly changing between different loads. Saves me buying extra powder measures for my various tool-head/die sets.

 
Went with the quick change mount, but the fully decked 650 is a monster, so it's not going anywhere. I mounted my single stage press beside it on a quick change instead.
 
@VanMan that speed is crazy! When I compare that to my Lee Turret I cry a little haha. Thanks for the help everyone, I have a good idea of where I want to start. I might slip the powder sensor, as currently I always visually look for the powder and have a good idea of what is a good and bad charge. I've loaded around 6000 on my Lee Turret, and it's definitely time for an upgrade.

Would it be better to wait for Boxing Day, does this stuff ever go on sale?
 
Euro said:
@VanMan that speed is crazy! When I compare that to my Lee Turret I cry a little haha. Thanks for the help everyone, I have a good idea of where I want to start. I might slip the powder sensor, as currently I always visually look for the powder and have a good idea of what is a good and bad charge. I've loaded around 6000 on my Lee Turret, and it's definitely time for an upgrade.

Would it be better to wait for Boxing Day, does this stuff ever go on sale?
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From your list I consider #1 & #2 as essentials, the extra primer tubes are close to being essential as having a 1/2 dozen loaded will increase load volume quite a bit...getting back to #2, the case feeder is essential to make the 650 volume potential attainable.

You might want to re-consider letting #1 "slide" as you put it. Remember your rotary press volume per hr is probably in the 2-3 hundred rounds per hr, with a 650 with case feeder your volume rate is going to go to 600 easily while still drinking a cup of coffee, and can go to 800 per with a little practice...Lots of things to watch with a 650 other than powder in the case if you can get an $85 add-on that checks "EVERY" case no matter what speed you attain.
 
fingers284 said:
From your list I consider #1 & #2 as essentials, the extra primer tubes are close to being essential as having a 1/2 dozen loaded will increase load volume quite a bit...getting back to #2, the case feeder is essential to make the 650 volume potential attainable.

You might want to re-consider letting #1 "slide" as you put it. Remember your rotary press volume per hr is probably in the 2-3 hundred rounds per hr, with a 650 with case feeder your volume rate is going to go to 600 easily while still drinking a cup of coffee, and can go to 800 per with a little practice...Lots of things to watch with a 650 other than powder in the case if you can get an $85 add-on that checks "EVERY" case no matter what speed you attain.
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That's a very good point. I did not consider the volume I would be reloading at. For $100~ could save me from gun metal exploding around me.
 
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