Where can I buy a barrel for a CZ858

GunsNotPuns said:
I don't know if you're being sarcastic but I've somehow managed to never have rust on any rifle that I used corrosive ammunition in over the years despite the fact that I've never used hot water to clean them. In fact, all I ever use is Hoppes#9.

Crazy, no?
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Does anyone know how to confirm if your barrel is chrome lined or not chrome lined? Does the 'C' at the end of the serial number conform that is in fact chrome lined? Or is the 'C' totally unrelated to if the bore is chrome lined?
 
cz858lover said:
Do you know if a bronze brush on a drill could damage the bore? I don't see how it could as bronze is a lot softer then carbon steel.
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I don't understand why you won't do the right thing.. and put a few rounds threw it... why are you hell bent on using the drill so badly.. A bullet or even a bronze brush on a cleaning rod follows the contour of the bore... drilling it works against the grain and will not follow the twist of the rifling ... does it not?

If putting a wire brush on the end of a drill to clean a rifle bore was a good thing... it would have been common knowledge by every rifleman alive today.

When you run a brush down your barrel it turns with the rifling.. when you use a drill, it crosses over or across the rifling and creates grooves that counteract the direction of the rifling... kinda like sanding wood against the grain instead of with the grain.

I assume you have already done this... if so, get a new barrel or sell the rifle for parts.
 
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midnightpossum said:
I don't understand why you won't do the right thing.. and put a few rounds threw it... why are you hell bent on using the drill so badly.. A bullet or even a bronze brush on a cleaning rod follows the contour of the bore... drilling it works against the grain and will not follow the twist of the rifling ... does it not?

If putting a wire brush on the end of a drill to clean a rifle bore was a good thing... it would have been common knowledge by every rifleman alive today.

When you run a brush down your barrel it turns with the rifling.. when you use a drill, it crosses over or across the rifling and creates grooves that counteract the direction of the rifling... kinda like sanding wood against the grain instead of with the grain.

I assume you have already done this... if so, get a new barrel or sell the rifle for parts.
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I have shot it. it didn't come clean. do you really think the drill trick would ruin the bore? Brass is ALOT softer then carbon steel.
 
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cz858lover said:
Any suggestions on methods to really clean the inside of the bore? I was thinking of maybe putting a bronze brush on an electric drill.
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Don't bother.
Nothing is going to get her clean like actually shooting it.
The heat, friction, supersonic copper etc firing through the bore will remove more in one shot than any amount of hours put in with brushes, solvents etc etc
Shoot it, then clean it properly with warm water to dissolve the corrosive salts, then clean as per normal.
Oil it well after that and you're golden Sir.

I can't believe that shooting it didn't clean it Sir. I had a jungle carbine that sat in a blanket in a closet for 20+ years (long story). Bore looked destroyed. Literally looked like the underside of a 40 year old vehicle in a scrap yard in there.
20 rounds though it and a good cleaning and it was not only still shooting very well but there was still shine in the bore, rifling was strong.
There was some very minor pitting in between the lands but otherwise like new!
 
Travis Bickle said:
Don't bother.
Nothing is going to get her clean like actually shooting it.
The heat, friction, supersonic copper etc firing through the bore will remove more in one shot than any amount of hours put in with brushes, solvents etc etc
Shoot it, then clean it properly with warm water to dissolve the corrosive salts, then clean as per normal.
Oil it well after that and you're golden Sir.

I can't believe that shooting it didn't clean it Sir. I had a jungle carbine that sat in a blanket in a closet for 20+ years (long story). Bore looked destroyed. Literally looked like the underside of a 40 year old vehicle in a scrap yard in there.
20 rounds though it and a good cleaning and it was not only still shooting very well but there was still shine in the bore, rifling was strong.
There was some very minor pitting in between the lands but otherwise like new!
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Yeah It won't come clean. I fired probably 70 rounds through it at the range. I tried the electric drill trick just now, and it does look quite a bit better. some of the other guys on here really have me worried now that I may have ruined the bore. deff won't be doing that again but do you think that could really ruin a bore?
 
cz858lover said:
Yeah It won't come clean. I fired probably 70 rounds through it at the range. I tried the electric drill trick just now, and it does look quite a bit better. some of the other guys on here really have me worried now that I may have ruined the bore. deff won't be doing that again but do you think that could really ruin a bore?
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I don't think it will ruin the bore if you do it once or twice. Not any more than firing bullets down the thing lol
I wouldn't chance running an electric drill and a bore brush in there for long periods of time regardless because I wouldn't want to chance it.
What is your definition of clean though? Are you expecting it to be brand new, not a trace of discolour when you run a patch? Don't waste your time if that's what you're aiming for. No rifle bore will ever be that clean after shooting.
There really is no point wasting time getting it to that level again anyhow.
If by "won't come clean" you mean that after cleaning it, it looks like a rough surface etc It probably has some pitting from being neglected or the bore surface shine has been slightly erroded.
Understand that doesn't mean the rifle won't shoot at all or well. It may not even affect the accuracy at all. It's just cosmetic.
Define what you're interpretation of "clean" is please. Sounds like you may be chasing ghosts.
 
Travis Bickle said:
I don't think it will ruin the bore if you do it once or twice. Not any more than firing bullets down the thing lol
I wouldn't chance running an electric drill and a bore brush in there for long periods of time regardless because I wouldn't want to chance it.
What is your definition of clean though? Are you expecting it to be brand new, not a trace of discolour when you run a patch? Don't waste your time if that's what you're aiming for. No rifle bore will ever be that clean after shooting.
There really is no point wasting time getting it to that level again anyhow.
If by "won't come clean" you mean that after cleaning it, it looks like a rough surface etc It probably has some pitting from being neglected or the bore surface shine has been slightly erroded.
Understand that doesn't mean the rifle won't shoot at all or well. It may not even affect the accuracy at all. It's just cosmetic.
Define what you're interpretation of "clean" is please. Sounds like you may be chasing ghosts.
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Thanks for your response. By "won't come clean" I mean there is visibly something stuck to the grooves in the bore. Its rough and definitely not clean, not sure if its pitting or stuck on the surface though.

Do you think maybe a fire lapping kit might work?
 
cz858lover said:
Thanks for your response. By "won't come clean" I mean there is visibly something stuck to the grooves in the bore. Its rough and definitely not clean, not sure if its pitting or stuck on the surface though.

Do you think maybe a fire lapping kit might work?
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Not sure on the fire lapping. Again you're going off the deep end man.
If you're new to this whole gun ownership thing in general, it's completely normal to see that in the bore after having it sit rusting for a period of time.
It's just slight surface pitting aka frosting in gun terms.
It's not going to affect your rifles performance or accuracy in any way shape or form.
Is the gun not shooting accurately? Are the projectiles keyholing/impacting sideways on paper? I'm guessing no.
It's a non issue man. You may cause actual tangible damage trying to make it look pretty when there is nothing actually wrong with it.
Trust me on that advice. Happy shooting!
 
upinsmokeweldinginc said:
CSA sold rifles with both chrome lined barrels and non chrome lined barrels. Im pretty sure if your serial number has a C some where in it, it means its chrome if I can remember correctly.
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Mine had a c and it most certainly was not chrome lined. I think the c was Canadian model (18.5") but that was my wild arse guess
 
wbaad said:
Mine had a c and it most certainly was not chrome lined. I think the c was Canadian model (18.5") but that was my wild arse guess
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When did you buy yours? I've only been reading on these guns for the last year and a half (since I got my PAL), but in that time I've read a LOT. I haven't read about any of these guns made any time remotely recently that didn't have chrome lined bore.

Also, OP, don't worry about it. If it's not inaccurate nothing is wrong. Just enjoy the gun, this really isn't a big deal. Just keep shooting it and the problems will almost certainly work themselves out. This is not a big deal.
 
p.Rundle said:
When did you buy yours? I've only been reading on these guns for the last year and a half (since I got my PAL), but in that time I've read a LOT. I haven't read about any of these guns made any time remotely recently that didn't have chrome lined bore.

Also, OP, don't worry about it. If it's not inaccurate nothing is wrong. Just enjoy the gun, this really isn't a big deal. Just keep shooting it and the problems will almost certainly work themselves out. This is not a big deal.
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Manufactured 2012 if that helps muddy the waters.
 
p.Rundle said:
I'm pretty sure that a bit after that time they started offering the 7.62 version in chrome lined only. I don't think the non-chrome barrels have even been an option for quite some time. I've just assumed all CSA's for the last little while have been chrome lined.
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Yes I also bought mine in 2012.. I wonder if it has a chrome lined bore
 
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