where can i find a CZ858??

true but have you handled one? All i'm going to say is it's just not the same, it feels like a toy, I dont' want to discourage anyone from buying one, I just want to highlight the fact it's not going to be what you think, its very much a toy version of an AK


Yes, I go down to Washington regularly to shoot and have handled and shot many AKs from many countries and in both 7.62 and 5.45. I like the rifle, but the CZ is just much better in every department except perhaps not being able to stack up in the extreme reliablility area. Perhaps the "toy" impression you get is the wood/resin furniture on the CZs. I didn't like it and replaced mine with wood as soon as I could, which made it a much more controllable shooter.
 
I agree that it's the furniture that really ruins the CZ rifles. Replacement is mandatory, then you can take it seriously.
I would bet the CZ shoots a little better than the AK and I KNOW it shoots better than SKS rifles.
 
I agree that it's the furniture that really ruins the CZ rifles. Replacement is mandatory, then you can take it seriously.
I would bet the CZ shoots a little better than the AK and I KNOW it shoots better than SKS rifles.

Each rifle shoots different. I have seen good shooting SKSs, and VZ858s. Never an accurate AK though, and that includes the valmets I have owned(and sold) over the years.

Exoce† has been doing well in service rifle competition out to 500m with an 858. Bone stock with czech ammo.

I imagine it would do nicely in CQB rest the bayonet on the target stuff as well. seams to point quickly anyway.
 
OK, fellas , lets back on topic .

heres a list of dealers from wolverine thread :

Bashaw Sports AB 780 372 4440 ontarget@explornet.com
Chilliwack Dart & Tackle BC 604 793 9922 b.kelsey@chwkdart.com
Corlane sports BC 250-782-2111 corlane@telus.net
Dantes QC 514 271 2057 info@dantesports.com
Del Selin BC 250 545 6413 delselin@telus.net
DJ Sales SK 306 324 2170 djsales@xplornet.com
Ellwood Epps ON 705 689 5333 info@ellwoodepps.com
Frontier Taxidermy SK 306763 1044 frontier.taxidermy@sasktel.net
Granlund Firearms BC 250 286 1998
G4 Research QC 514 737 5921 storino@total.net
Hougans sports lodge YT 867 668 2103 hunting@hougans.com
Lanz shooting supplies ON 905) 957-7362 seth-sara@lanzshootingsupplies.com
Lever Arms BC 604 736 0004 orders@leverarms.com
Milarm AB 780 424 5281 milarm@telus.net
Moving Target AB 780 727 6620 movingtarget@persona.ca
P&D Enterprises AB 780 420 6419 info@p-d-ent.com
Reliable Gun & Tackle BC 604 874 4710 gunshop@telus.net
Target Sports ON 905 888 8288
The Shooting Edge (TSE) AB 403 720 4867 info@theshootingedge.com
Wanstalls BC 604 467 9232 wanstalls@gmail.com
Wild West Shooting Supplies AB 780 426 4866 flora@shootingcentre.com
Williams Arms ON 905 985 8884 sales@williamsarms.net
Valley Gunsmithing ON 613 687 2352 valleygunsmithing@bellnet.ca

We will add to this list as required
 
Perfect !! thanks . I ve been trying to reach Frontier for 5 days but i guess i ll go with someone else if they dont contact me on monday .
 
just a bit of a warning for anyone out there who hasn't handled one of these guns they are a bit toyish, quite light, and don't really feel like a real AK, I was about to buy one but when I saw it and acctually handled it, I think it turned me off these guns for good. Just a heads up, see one before you buy it, cause an SKS is way cheaper and a lot more fun!

It is only a fair comparison if you compare the CZ to the SKS-D. Once you get four AK mags for the SKS D it really isn't that much cheaper. I know some SKS's shoot great but it is hard to dispute that the CZ is much more accurate overall.
 
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I just bought one off of POnts too and notice that he is still selling them on the EE. I wonder how many does he have?

I would suggest that someone snap them up if wolverine is going to want 695 plus tax, it is not much difference in price. I am in mb and so the purchase of wolverines would be 12% HIGHER.
 
OK, fellas , lets back on topic .

heres a list of dealers from wolverine thread :

Bashaw Sports AB 780 372 4440 ontarget@explornet.com
Chilliwack Dart & Tackle BC 604 793 9922 b.kelsey@chwkdart.com
Corlane sports BC 250-782-2111 corlane@telus.net
Dantes QC 514 271 2057 info@dantesports.com
Del Selin BC 250 545 6413 delselin@telus.net
DJ Sales SK 306 324 2170 djsales@xplornet.com
Ellwood Epps ON 705 689 5333 info@ellwoodepps.com
Frontier Taxidermy SK 306763 1044 frontier.taxidermy@sasktel.net
Granlund Firearms BC 250 286 1998
G4 Research QC 514 737 5921 storino@total.net
Hougans sports lodge YT 867 668 2103 hunting@hougans.com
Lanz shooting supplies ON 905) 957-7362 seth-sara@lanzshootingsupplies.com
Lever Arms BC 604 736 0004 orders@leverarms.com
Milarm AB 780 424 5281 milarm@telus.net
Moving Target AB 780 727 6620 movingtarget@persona.ca
P&D Enterprises AB 780 420 6419 info@p-d-ent.com
Reliable Gun & Tackle BC 604 874 4710 gunshop@telus.net
Target Sports ON 905 888 8288
The Shooting Edge (TSE) AB 403 720 4867 info@theshootingedge.com
Wanstalls BC 604 467 9232 wanstalls@gmail.com
Wild West Shooting Supplies AB 780 426 4866 flora@shootingcentre.com
Williams Arms ON 905 985 8884 sales@williamsarms.net
Valley Gunsmithing ON 613 687 2352 valleygunsmithing@bellnet.ca

We will add to this list as required

AFAIK - All 5 of Dantes were sold weeks ahead of time.
 
We received a small shipment about a week ago and all have been sold. We called everyone who had one on back order and most were sold immediately with only one or two hitting the rifle rack. We are now on back order with Wolverine to get a supply from them with every shipment they get in. Phil.
 
for some reason , dealers dont like emails i think !!! I dont have a home phone , only a cellphone so im not gonna call each and every one of them . PMd frontier a month ago and they said they keep one for me and forgot about me . emailed several other dealers with no response . I think im going to forget about it !!
 
I dont think they dont like emails, I think when they get to yours it's a month old, after ancering 30 emails a day on "whats a good rifle" "watcha got in 30 cal shells" I think the pore guys are swamped.
 
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