where do i start for a precision .308 set up?

.Ben

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i wanna build a prescision/"sniper" build for plinking (not likely any hunting beacuse that would be an excuse to buy a fine wood Weatherby:p)

thinking i want it in .308 so i have another caliber to reload and i dont have a .308 yet:eek:

id like to spend around $1500 on the build,

so i guess the Rem 700 is the best starting platform correct? (also a 700 action is sorta traditional in sniper rifles) but which model would be best to start with as there is so many....

so far i see the 700 "VTR"

as well as jsut the plain old SPS synthetic blued model....

any accuracy/quality diffferences between thease or is there another model i should look at?




also anyone have any idea on a scope and bi-pod? dont wanna go nutyts on the scope but somehting that would be good out to about 500 yards would be nice if thats possible in my budget.


any thoughts, Opinions, comments or Insults welcome!:p
 
.Ben said:
i wanna build a prescision/"sniper" build for plinking (not likely any hunting beacuse that would be an excuse to buy a fine wood Weatherby:p)

thinking i want it in .308 so i have another caliber to reload and i dont have a .308 yet:eek:

id like to spend around $1500 on the build,

so i guess the Rem 700 is the best starting platform correct? (also a 700 action is sorta traditional in sniper rifles) but which model would be best to start with as there is so many....

so far i see the 700 "VTR"

as well as jsut the plain old SPS synthetic blued model....

any accuracy/quality diffferences between thease or is there another model i should look at?




also anyone have any idea on a scope and bi-pod? dont wanna go nutyts on the scope but somehting that would be good out to about 500 yards would be nice if thats possible in my budget.


any thoughts, Opinions, comments or Insults welcome!:p
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If your building it not likely gonna hit your price point with a remington. I you mean buy a factory rifle and shoot it. Buy a Remington 700 R5 .308 there was a new one in the EE for 1150 ish that leaves you 350 ish for the scope. Look in the EE for a used Elite bushnell in the magnafication you wan't. for out to 500 yard plinking you could start with weaver style bases and burris rings. Upgrade as needed.

Or

SPS tactical 800 ish after tax and shipping
this leaves you 700 for a good ring base scope combo
Upgrade your stock after you save money.
 
For a few more $ ($1100?) the Rem Police in 308 already has a McMillan stock (reallllyy nice and has been inlet with a bedding block) so you won't have to pay a LOT more later to upgrade but it does put you up in price a bit. Also I'd save up for a good scope, spend the money on optics, not power. Out to 500M you really don't need to go over about 10X. If you're not shooting from a bench it's pretty hard to controll a high mag scope from a field position so anything over about 12-14X is wasted. (I may fry for that statement but that's what I've found.)Good luck, Jayph also has sound idea.
 
I second ( or third ) the idea of a Remington R5. I just sold mine to a buddy as I needed to make room for an upgrade but it was ( and remains ) a fine rifle. Mine was a solid 3/4 MOA firearm that digested a variety of ammo and was super easy to reload for ( preferring a COAL of exactly 2.800 ). I would recommend one with an Elite 3200 10x or 5x15x40 or a Falcon Menace 4.5x18x56 as a perfect combo for the money. Buy an EGW base ( from Allen Gunworks ) and decent rings ( I use TPS but there are plenty of choices ) and you are range ready.
 
Build it ground up.
Find an action and put a match grade barrel and decent stock on there.
You can do it all through the EE if you do some searching. That is what I should have done rather than spend the money up front for a complete rifle and end up changing everything but the action itself. :p

$1500 to build a rifle can get you a lot more than to buy an off the shelf one.
 
timoram said:
Build it ground up.
Find an action and put a match grade barrel and decent stock on there.
You can do it all through the EE if you do some searching. That is what I should have done rather than spend the money up front for a complete rifle and end up changing everything but the action itself. :p

$1500 to build a rifle can get you a lot more than to buy an off the shelf one.
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X2 for timoram suggestions its the only way to go, My friend just had Denis Sorrenson true his 700 action, had Mick Mc fee put on a Kreiger Barrel from sponser on sight,and beded a Remington Laminated he pick-up,used.
He shoots consitant 1/4 min groups even a .520" at 300 yards not a lot a factory guns will match a custom, and when you clean a hand -lapped barrel you will never want another factory barrel.
manitou
 
big boar said:
For a few more $ ($1100?) the Rem Police in 308 already has a McMillan stock (reallllyy nice and has been inlet with a bedding block) so you won't have to pay a LOT more later to upgrade but it does put you up in price a bit. Also I'd save up for a good scope, spend the money on optics, not power. Out to 500M you really don't need to go over about 10X. If you're not shooting from a bench it's pretty hard to controll a high mag scope from a field position so anything over about 12-14X is wasted. (I may fry for that statement but that's what I've found.)Good luck, Jayph also has sound idea.
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He might of mis typed but don't go in expecting a McMillan on that rifle. They are made by HS precision same make of the stock on the R5. Good stocks but they are not McMillans. Just clearing that up.
 
manitou210 said:
X2 for timoram suggestions its the only way to go, My friend just had Denis Sorrenson true his 700 action, had Mick Mc fee put on a Kreiger Barrel from sponser on sight,and beded a Remington Laminated he pick-up,used.
He shoots consitant 1/4 min groups even a .520" at 300 yards not a lot a factory guns will match a custom, and when you clean a hand -lapped barrel you will never want another factory barrel.
manitou
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but what did that cost him?
500 used action
150 action work
440 Krieger barrel
275-350 for chamber crown and install barrel
200 used stock 350 for HS take off

thats estimated at 1565 and leaves him no room for optics. I agree custom is the route to go I have sold most my rifles and am going for a few really good customs have one done and one on the go. But it's not in everyones price range or needs.
 
Yeah but a 5r with a scope that he shoots the bag off of and then re-barrels later is going to work a hell of a lot better for his shooting then an action and barrel that sits for 6 months cause he can't afford to put optics on and shoot it. My shooting partner shoots a 5r and did just fine in the BCRA tactical shoot last year. 5R is where its at. When your ready you have a nice stainless action to throw a nice barrel on, but it will still shoot sub MOA for you.

I am with Jayph on this one. Customs are great, but even my custom 300wm I had built off a sps stainless was 2500+. work within your budget and shoot. I would suggest in better optics no matter what route you take, but a falcon menace for 4-5 hundred will get you shooting just fine until you can upgrade.
 
c4pyro said:
Yeah but a 5r with a scope that he shoots the bag off of and then re-barrels later is going to work a hell of a lot better for his shooting then an action and barrel that sits for 6 months cause he can't afford to put optics on and shoot it. My shooting partner shoots a 5r and did just fine in the BCRA tactical shoot last year. 5R is where its at. When your ready you have a nice stainless action to throw a nice barrel on, but it will still shoot sub MOA for you.

I am with Jayph on this one. Customs are great, but even my custom 300wm I had built off a sps stainless was 2500+. work within your budget and shoot. I would suggest in better optics no matter what route you take, but a falcon menace for 4-5 hundred will get you shooting just fine until you can upgrade.
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what did you use to get Rem semi custom to cost $2500?
 
noneck180 said:
where you getting your R5,s to leave you extra for a base rings and a scope under $1500
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there is a new one in the EE for 1150 and there are sales other places too. it doesn't leave much for optics. but a elite 3200 3-9x40mm used would fit the bill and get him shooting to 500 untill he can upgrade. yeah he won't be able to see a tick on a dog at 500 but he will see a MOA target and ring a gong. thats lots of fun to do and learn. Then he upgrades. weaver style bases and burris rings will work fine too when he starts out 75 bucks for that set up.

I agree with the fellow that agreed with me:D I would rather see him shooting a system with lots of potential to build off of other than a closet full of parts.
 
noneck180 said:
I would never put put $3000 into a Remington semi custom,, must be gold plated parts LOL
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nope but it's what she wanted and she goes shooting and hunting with me now so It was worth every penny. What would you build for 3000 with optics that would be worth it.
 
With optics is another story,, but you could go with a Barnard,Stiller action pic a stock,, barrel,, trigger bottom metal, its not hard to get a gun with a custom action for $3000,, you might have to shop around or get to know the right people,,, but if it would cost me $6000 to get my wife to go hunting with me I would pay it LOL
 
I'll admit I'm one of the guys pushing the $3k mark on my most accurate current rig, and it's not even a custom job. Savage 10FCP with a factory HS Precision stock, topped by NF 20MOA mounts, NF Titanium rings, and a Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 4.5-15x50 side-focus AO. $2800 + tax for the rig, and I like the way it shoots stock (good enough for my non-competing self, and always impresses the buddies).

However, if I were on a $1500 budget, I would do this:

www.p-d-ent.com (supporting dealer; click banner at top of page)

P+D Stock 28036 - Rem 700 LTR, blued synthetic, .308 Win, includes rings and bases - $899.

OR

P+D Stock 25713 - Rem 700 SPS Tactical, Hogue overmold - $825

Choose your favorite scope, or in the second case add rings/bases/scope to complete the package. Might I suggest P+D Stock L61285, Leupold VX-II 4-12x40 AO, LR Duplex, $681.00.

Total, for 28036 + L61285 = $1,659 (tax incl, shipping extra).
Total, for 25713 + $200 worth of rings/bases + L61285 = $1,791.30 (tax incl, shipping extra). Subtract the rings/bases from this and you're below $1,600.

I love my Savage 10, and think the Savage 12F/TR series are great building blocks, but they're not in your price range right now if $1500 is going to be for the package deal.

Building anything that approaches some others' ideas of 'precision rifles' is going to be nearly impossible... but for an MOA rifle, especially if you handload, I think the combos I posted above can get you where you need to be. If you want to go sub-MOA, or sub-half, then the Rem 700 on which the two above are based have been tuned by many a 'smith and you can always source these accuracy-boosting services as your cashflow allows.

Just my humble $.02.

-M
 
I have a Remington 700P and its very accurate right out of the box. This would leave you a couple hundreds for optics and you would be good to go. I would suggest not making TOO many expensive upgrades if you want to sell it later. Your most likely not gonna get what you put into it (money wise).
 
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