Where have all the Newtons gone?
- Thread starter Noel
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I may have a better solution...I'm in a safe-cleaning mood too! cheers!
Just to answer an interrogation about Newton;
Yes, he was aware of the Ross and he published many articles and especially one where he mentions the Ross rifle, March 1912 in the The Outer's Book titled "Special Rifles". This is 4 years before he introduced his first pattern.
Yes, he was aware of the Ross and he published many articles and especially one where he mentions the Ross rifle, March 1912 in the The Outer's Book titled "Special Rifles". This is 4 years before he introduced his first pattern.
ALBERTA BOY
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Someone mentioned the ad in the EE. That ad describes the condition as good/fair. I guess people have different ideas of what that means. I don't think it's "good." It's not my ad. I'll just say people should look carefully at the single picture posted and come to their own conclusions...
In the mean time, here's some Newton rifles!
In the mean time, here's some Newton rifles!
Boy .. thats an interesting comment Alberta Boy - could you elaborate a little please.
When I look at that picture (and only that picture) on EE I see a single trigger (which I have not seen before and is different than our 4 samples - your 2 and my 2 - with double set triggers but certainly doesn't cause me to draw any unusual conclusions) and I see a receiver sight that "might" be better reversed to the left of the action (but without seeing the off side this is a wild ass guess). Everything else looks pretty good to me from where I sit ....but I am keen to learn from your observations.
Incidentally I did note that your first illustrated rifle has had all the sights removed .. including the nifty folding Lyman peep designed to mount on the cocking piece. Also that a cheekpiece has been added and someone opted to mount the scope with aluminum Weaver bases. Pity cause now you can get these in blued steel and they look better imho. And it also looks like the grip cap is shifted a little -- which happens occasionally when the rear action retainer screw starts to open up the through hole in the pistol grip - I think an over use of oil may be a common affliction for Newtons - it preserves the lovely metal work and plays havoc with onsealed wood making it softer..
Btw I like the bluing job and the barrel band added to the second rifle. Looks slick!
... could be .. but I never saw one before in any literature ... and it would sure play hell with the takedown capability... no?
I think it was added later to reduce the stress from the forward sling on the forestock - looks good though
ALBERTA BOY
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- Edmonton, AB
The bolt handle on the one for sale is so badly rusted, it looks like it was raised from the bottom of the Ocean along with artifacts from the Titanic.
Receiver/barrel looks not much better. Maybe it's just a bad pic. I've PMed the seller asking for better pics but from the pic available, the condition appears to be 'poor'.
The picture of the 256 is a bit old. The scope, rings, etc have all been replaced on that first Newton rifle since that picture was taken. The grip cap is fully adjustable and just needs to be tightened up. The sights were removed and cheek piece installed when my great grandfather's eye sight went south. The Cheek piece was orderable directly from Newton for $3.30 including war tax. That rifle is nearly 100 years old and has been hunted hard and frequently by my family. This October it was on stand for Elk in heavy rain and was beating thick bush tracking a whitetail it put a hole through. It's certainly not any kind of museum piece.
Every single photo in every old book of Newtons seems to have the double set trigger, even the lever bolt rifle. Looking at the Newton price list and build to order options, a single trigger was never an option. When looking closely at the picture that's posted for sale, you can see the hole for the rear set in the top of the trigger guard....
Since it seems the trigger is broken or missing, that would seem to reduce the condition to 'very poor' in my opinion...
Receiver/barrel looks not much better. Maybe it's just a bad pic. I've PMed the seller asking for better pics but from the pic available, the condition appears to be 'poor'.
The picture of the 256 is a bit old. The scope, rings, etc have all been replaced on that first Newton rifle since that picture was taken. The grip cap is fully adjustable and just needs to be tightened up. The sights were removed and cheek piece installed when my great grandfather's eye sight went south. The Cheek piece was orderable directly from Newton for $3.30 including war tax. That rifle is nearly 100 years old and has been hunted hard and frequently by my family. This October it was on stand for Elk in heavy rain and was beating thick bush tracking a whitetail it put a hole through. It's certainly not any kind of museum piece.
Every single photo in every old book of Newtons seems to have the double set trigger, even the lever bolt rifle. Looking at the Newton price list and build to order options, a single trigger was never an option. When looking closely at the picture that's posted for sale, you can see the hole for the rear set in the top of the trigger guard....
Since it seems the trigger is broken or missing, that would seem to reduce the condition to 'very poor' in my opinion...
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I somehow missed your post sid, and yeah I recall you mentioning selling of your two as well. I'm only keen for a 30 really. But maybe someone here would be looking.
Did I give you your Newton Books back? Mind checking to see about the single trigger and the barrel band?.
If memory serves the second model had a single trigger and there was info on that band.
That was one sweet rifle!
