Where to buy Shiloh rifle in Canada ?

Shilo Sharps, Big Timber Montana. They have a vendor that will export from the US and import to Canada the rifle for you. You do not want a 45/90 you want a 45/100 much more accurate and harder hitting. I do believe that there is a one year wait. It is worth it as the quality of their rifles is second to none.
 
eaglesnester said:
You do not want a 45/90 you want a 45/100 much more accurate and harder hitting. I do believe that there is a one year wait. It is worth it as the quality of their rifles is second to none.
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While I will second the quality of Shilo Sharps rifles, I certainly would not agree with getting a 45 100. I had a a 45-120 and it kicked like a mule. I shot it relatively little and sold it after a couple of years. My impression is that many of those who buy the 45-120s do so because they consider it the original buffalo caliber and after shooting their gun a few times end up having it rechambered to 45-70 or selling the gun .
While I think 45-70 is convenient to shoot, I also think there are several other calibers between 40 and 45 which are a lot more comfortable to shoot and still have enough knock down power to knock the silhouettes over. I think I already mentioned that I currently shoot a 38-56 with a fast twist barrel that allows me to use 300 grain slugs. Also a 44-77 which I am optimistic about working a load up for

cheers mooncoon
 
I also feel compelled to chime in and say do not get a .45-100 (2.6"). The .45-90 is enough of a handful for shooting silhouette prone. The rule of thumb I have been led to believe is that the longer the cartridges are, the more finicky they are to get to shoot well. They all can be made to be accurate, but there is a bloody good reason the majority of BPCR shooters still stick with the .45-70. .40-65 is also another popular option, and there are a handful of us who shoot the 2.4" cases (the .45-90's and assorted .40-82's) and they are not horribly difficult to get to shoot. You also lose efficiency in the longer cases for amounts of powder burned vs. velocity. As far as gettting a rifle, they don't come up used on the Canadian market that often. Phone the shop in Big Timber and see what is sitting on the shelf for sale. The .45-120's are oft reffered to as "Oops guns" in this circle.
 
45-120 vs 45-70

There's a reason most serious BPCR shooters shoot the 45-70 - recoil tolerance.
Anyone can shoot a few rds from a 45-120 with no ill effects, especially from off hand. But from the bench or prone with x-sticks, it's a different matter.

I enjoy watching some pretty big boys flinch when shooting their 45-110s and 45-120s. Better them than me.

Met a fellow at the range one day shooting a trio of 38-55s; two lever guns and single shot. I had my 45-70 Shiloh '74. He asked me if I wanted another Shiloh in 45-120. I declined and asked him why he bought it. Answer:

"I was younger then, and it seemed like a good idea at the time."

I referred him to an associate that wanted a 45-120 as it appealed to his ego to shoot the 'Boss Gun', even though it wasn't an historic 'buffler' gun. It's the same mentality that makes people gravitate to the '47 Walker Dragoon - ''mine's bigger than yours''.

I've seen this in action putting on period arms seminars. The men gravitate to the Walker and Dragoons, the ladies to the elegant .36 Navy's. The men get a lesson in humility and the ladies enjoy the experience.
 
Maybe to put some further perspective on the recoil issue; I consider 6 and 8 guage shotguns comfortable to shoot. I also have a 5 guage, 14 lb rifle that I shoot with a 3 oz ball and 230 grains of powder. It does kick like a mule. I would still shoot it in preference to a 45-120. The 45-120 gives a really sharp whack in the shoulder that is fairly uncomfortable to me at least

cheers mooncoon
 
Sharps '63 said:
There's a reason most serious BPCR shooters shoot the 45-70 - recoil tolerance.
Anyone can shoot a few rds from a 45-120 with no ill effects, especially from off hand. But from the bench or prone with x-sticks, it's a different matter.
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Agreed. I own a 45-120 by C. Sharps that I purchased used. For me it was a great deal as it came with dies and brass, long range tang sight and it was all ready in Canada, no import hassles.
The rifle weighs approximately 12.5 lbs. I find that 3 shot bench groups are quite tolerable. However it is cumulative. After 15 rounds you are starting to feel it. I shoot off sticks occasionaly but never prone.My cast load is a 500 grainer over 100 gr Pyrodex.
If I had been buying new I would have chosen the 45-70 simply because brass is so much easier to find and it is more pleasant to shoot.
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My 13 lb 45-90 with 80 gr FFG and 500 gr slugs has all the recoil I can handle and I would be just as happy if it was a 45-70. I tame it with a slip-on rubber recoil pad when not wearing a heavy coat. No way could this lad enjoy a 45-110 or 45-120!
 
I bought a sporter # 1 direct from shiloh 2 years ago.
No issues.

Done 3 matches now in BPCR.
Very addictive.

Attended the Shiloh match in sask this summer.
Met Kirk and Lucinda, good people, very well respected.

After doing competitive shooting in cowboy, IPSC, and clay birds.
Also a guest at a few muzzelloading shoots...
I will say BPCR are the nicest bunch of people.
The sport is growing too.

There is now a Shioh rep and warrenty guy in regina.
Good guy too.

Pm for more info...
 
Any fan of these old guns and calibers should get these 2 inexpensive books...

SPG LUBRICANTS BP CARTRIDGE RELOADING PRIMER

SHOOTING BUFFALO RIFLES OF THE OLD WEST

from here...
http://www.shilohrifle.com/shop/home.php?cat=16
 
mooncoon said:
Maybe to put some further perspective on the recoil issue; I consider 6 and 8 guage shotguns comfortable to shoot. I also have a 5 guage, 14 lb rifle that I shoot with a 3 oz ball and 230 grains of powder. It does kick like a mule. I would still shoot it in preference to a 45-120. The 45-120 gives a really sharp whack in the shoulder that is fairly uncomfortable to me at least

cheers mooncoon
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Chunk Guns are cool :cool:
 
geraldbergeron said:
Hi,

I am looking to buy a 45-90 Shiloh rifle.

Do you know any dealer in Canada ? ?

Thank you

Gerald
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No dealers in Canada.

No point in buying used eather, since most often the price is more then a new gun.

Phone shiloh and see what they have coming up on the rack, they most often have 45-70, 40-65 and the odd 45-90. If they have something you like on the rack the lead time is much less then a year.

you can also see the currently available guns on the webstie.

Once you remove the sissy pad or that bra shaped contraption that some guys use, you will find a 45-70 will be most you can tolerate for more then a couple rounds.
 
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