Where to start?

[mrclean]

CZ Shadow and spend the extra on the .22LR conversion. Break it in using the 22 top end (cheaper ammo and they are accurate as anything)and when you are ready to switch up to the 9mm top end you will have the trigger broken in nicely. The grip options available for the CZ also make it easier to fit to shooters with diferent hand sizes.
Just my .02.

 

[euxx]

A Sig with the SRT trigger might be interesting...

Sure, if you are used to holding a brick in your hand.

 

[P90Puma]

Sure, if you are used to holding a brick in your hand.

Funny, I wear size M gloves and nothing (92/M&P/Glock/USP/PX4/CZ/SR9/1911) has come close to fitting me as well as my P226 E^2 other then a HK P30 compact with a threaded 106+mm barrel.

Maybe instead of brick you mean bullion? They are of similar dimensions and the Sig rep is up there with solid gold.

 

[euxx]

Funny, I wear size M gloves and nothing (92/M&P/Glock/USP/PX4/CZ/SR9/1911) has come close to fitting me as well as my P226 E^2 other then a HK P30 compact with a threaded 106+mm barrel.

Maybe instead of brick you mean bullion? They are of similar dimensions and the Sig rep is up there with solid gold.

Subjectively, Sig's grip and slide feels thick, comparing to the other guns.

Another thing about Sig is that I can't grip it as high as other guns (especially Sig models without the beaver tail), hence recoil brings gun higher.

On a side note, CZ has variety of grips which can make gun to fit your hand. The new M&P and Gen4 Glock come with grip inserts for different hand sizes.

 

[jonesbb630]

Subjectively, Sig's grip and slide feels thick, comparing to the other guns.

Another thing about Sig is that I can't grip it as high as other guns (especially Sig models without the beaver tail), hence recoil brings gun higher.

On a side note, CZ has variety of grips which can make gun to fit your hand. The new M&P and Gen4 Glock come with grip inserts for different hand sizes.

The E Sig grips are not as thick as the traditional factory grips. You can also get Sig SCT or Sig Blackwater Tactical, or Tac Opps grips which feel awsome and are slim feeling. Not to mention thin aluminium grips by sig and hogue. The thickness of slide brings more weight sucking-up recoil which is always welcomed. Parts are hard to come by and expensive gun for what you get. They are well balanced and have good weight and very reliable.

 

[maurice]

For competition and price wise I would get the Shadow. If you are the type of person who wants a gun you depend your life on and shoot well in competition, get a nice sig,..just be prepared to pay more than a shadow. The sig has more work put into it than the CZ for quality control. You could also get an HK P30-LS.....which I plan on getting eventually. I run a couple of tanfoglio stock 2's,..prettier than a shadow, and I find better for recoil dampening. I could run factory self defense ammo thru either and depend on them,...and also run lower PF ammo and they are still uber reliable. You could get a tanfoglio Combat sport at a good price from Freedom Ventures....and do well with it.

 

[euxx]

...The thickness of slide brings more weight sucking-up recoil which is always welcomed...

I'd argue that. More weight on the frame is good for adding some inertia to the gun, but slide is a moving part, so better have it as light as possible. A moving part above your hand will try to drag your hand with it, resulting in more vertical movement.

 

[maurice]

I'd argue that. More weight on the frame is good for adding some inertia to the gun, but slide is a moving part, so better have it as light as possible. A moving part above your hand will try to drag your hand with it, resulting in more vertical movement.

I have to say I also agree..... less weight to moving parts is always better. That is why we see cut slides, and ported slides.

 

[capncrunch]

Here's my two cents worth:

I shoot all of the following pistols (in 9mm).

Glock 17 - Excellent reliability, poor ergonomics, good accuracy.

Light polymer frame transfers recoil to the hand which can be tiring after a lot of rounds.
Sits very low in the hand, so is very stable.
Angle of the grip does not lend itself to a comfortable grip position.
Mediocre trigger but no double-action trigger pulls to worry about.

SIG P226 - Excellent reliability, mediocre ergonomics, good accuracy.

Heavy steel frame absorbs recoil well.
Sits high in the hand, so a certain amount of muzzle flip due to high bore line.
Chunky grip can be a handful, but reasonably comfortable.
So-so trigger with a very heavy double-action trigger pull.

M&P Pro - Very good reliability, very good ergonomics, very good accuracy.

Good ergonomics makes up for light polymer frame.
Sits very low in the hand, so is very stable.
Reasonably comfortable grip position with swappable back straps for different hand sizes.
So-so trigger but no double-action trigger pulls to worry about.

CZ SP01 - Good reliability, excellent ergonomics, excellent accuracy.

Heavy steel frame absorbs recoil well.
Sits low in the hand, so is very stable.
Excellent ergonomics, this gun fits the hand really well.
Excellent trigger with a decent double-action trigger pull with lighter main spring.

If my life depended on a carry pistol, it'd be either the Glock or the SIG. For a competition gun, the CZ has the edge.

 

[jonesbb630]

I'd argue that. More weight on the frame is good for adding some inertia to the gun, but slide is a moving part, so better have it as light as possible. A moving part above your hand will try to drag your hand with it, resulting in more vertical movement.

I must say I have to agree also. What was I thinking??? However, I really don't see any issue with both my P226's on recoil. It would be better if the slide was lighter that's for sure.