I want to say 10/22, but I think the Marlin model 60 is the way to go for a woods gun. I have a 10/22 and had a model 60. Don't regret buying the 10/22, but do regret parting with the model 60. It was a great woods beater. Call Jamie or Rick at Coastal to see what they got in stock.
which 22?
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Avalonthas
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I jumped on the 10/22 Carbine (Synthetic Black Stock, Stainless Steel Barrel). Couldnt be happier, it was the first firearm i ever shot.
Sir, I call you on that. Without aftermarket parts, the 10 22 would have failed horribly. If you want a good, reliable out of the box firearm, it doesn't fit the bill. I call bs on anyone who worships the 10 22 based on what Ruger made it. They made a metal box. 100 other companies made it a firearm.
Has anyone else shot a Thompson Center R-55 semi? They are deadly accurate, they outshoot the CZ bolt line all day long, they have a match barrel and improved 10/22 type action, magazine fed, fibre optic sights, need absolutely no tweaking, ready to go out of the box and only marginally less accurate than a anschutz 54 action, will keep up with the $1000 64 anschutz action all day long. They are fantastic 22's. The local gun shop has a posted target where a chap shot a 1/4 inch 10 shot group at 50 yards, not bagged. it out classes the 10/22 by a fair margin, and I am a big fan of not only the 10/22 but the whole cz 22 line as well. Just giving the gun its dues. Sure they had problems with the ramp angle on the magazines which created feeding issues but with a little patience and a file that is resolved pretty quick.
So your saying in 1964 ruger built the 1022 to take advanatage of all the after market parts that were available
.So your saying in 1964 ruger built the 1022 to take advanatage of all the after market parts that were available
To answer a question with a question: How many magazine fed, semi automatic .22lr with screwed in barrels were there in 1964?
Call me all you want! I still say BS!!
I have had a 10/22 for 31 years. It is bone stock except that I have a BC folder & BC Steel Lips mags that I use often. As I stated earlier, it NEVER jams with any ammo ever!!! And for those who say they "spray" bullets, here you go...
Bone stock carbine 10/22 (circa 1980)
Burris Fullfield II 3 X 9 X 40 scope
100 yds bench rested w/little to no wind
Bulk Winchester 333 ammo
Rate of fire = approx 1 rnd/sec.
Ammo count = 10,000+ rds down the pipe
Nuff said...
AWOL, you would be hard pressed to find a bone stock new 10/22 that shoots that well. Thats great shooting for any 22 with that ammo. went gopher hunting with a farmer who had an abused 10/22 that I am sure he got from Moses, or maybe Moses's grandpa, and he didn't miss a shot out to 125 yards. I was honestly shocked. The new ones do not perform that well at all, don't trade yours off as you will be pissed.
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After I got mine all set up, I shoot 1 inch groups, and its 6 weeks old
What a crock of horse dung! And what a stupid thing to say.
They are sold with barrels that are suitable for what they are sold as, which is a relatively inexpensive, handy, semi-auto.
Want a target gun, pay for one. That is where the aftermarket stuff can come into play. Or you can buy one ready built, by Ruger, roughly based on what was popular enough that the factory saw opportunity in it.
The aftermarket accessories came long after, and Ruger doesn't see the money they would like from it, I am certain. With 5 million plus of them out there, there IS strong motivation for the aftermarket to continue to develop more products to suit the customers wants.
Personally, I like the old Marlin lever guns. Not as keen on the newer ones, They don't feel as nice. Never cared that much for the looks of their bolt or semi's. <shrug> But I won't go spouting conspiracy theories about them.
Cheers
Trev
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Marlin 60 production numbers have topped 11 million, I hear.
For the Marlin 60, there's not much available by way of accessories like target grade barrels. Perhaps the Marlin 60 doesn't need them to shoot well?
I am a big Ruger fan: I love the GP100, Security-Six, the P-89/90 series, and liked the Mini-30 and Blackhawk 357 I had.
However, I sold my 10/22 because of its dismal accuracy, apologies to all 10/22 faithful. I hope Hunter's sold it to someone who put it to good use.
For the Marlin 60, there's not much available by way of accessories like target grade barrels. Perhaps the Marlin 60 doesn't need them to shoot well?
I am a big Ruger fan: I love the GP100, Security-Six, the P-89/90 series, and liked the Mini-30 and Blackhawk 357 I had.
However, I sold my 10/22 because of its dismal accuracy, apologies to all 10/22 faithful. I hope Hunter's sold it to someone who put it to good use.
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Heavy Barrel Buckmark Carbine with a BSA Sweet 22 Scope great for game and target shooting, very accurate.
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hey guys i decided im goingto buy a marlin 60 or a 795 in the next few days! i want a beater for in the woods there very cheap and reasonable i here? id like to have a rugar but i don't wana spend a lot o money rite now. WHat is the marlin 60 with the scope combo like? its cheap but is it decent for 189? i was also considering the 795 because i like the clip instead of tube fed and mounting my own scope what d you sudgest?
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I came on this thread looking for a 10/22 as well.
Have you considered the Savage line?
I am considering the MARK II series, an "FV" or "FVSS."
They are mag. fed bolt guns.
I see myself cutting the bull barrels down to 16" and adding a larger bolt handle.
I've read excellent reviews.
Have you considered the Savage line?
I am considering the MARK II series, an "FV" or "FVSS."
They are mag. fed bolt guns.
I see myself cutting the bull barrels down to 16" and adding a larger bolt handle.
I've read excellent reviews.
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I would also add that I am seriously considering this Marlin 70PSS as a camp/backpack gun
Perhaps.
More likely because the barrel does not come off with the removal of two screws. Drive pins are pretty much the same as welding, from some of the hacks I've seen done to them.
Not much effort goes into developing aftermarket parts for the non-modular constructed firearms, from what I can see in the marketplace.
Really, though. Yours didn't shoot as well as you wanted. Mine does.
I have a bud with a Win 490 that shoots like a hot damn, too. His gophers end up as dead as mine.
Not really the same as saying that the company (Ruger, in this case) is doing this on purpose, to make you buy aftermarket stuff. That, was my beef.
But the options are there if you wish to.
If the Marlin's style suits ya, and you are good with that, OK.
If you want to have the options to make ALL the changes, you pretty much gotta go 10/22. Do note, that the term that comes up is "Option". Choice. Not need, must, got to, have to or any other term that denotes that it is a requirement.
Own lots of 22's. They are cheap to feed and not every one is the best for every purpose.
I'm still pondering whether the next one in is gonna be an SR-22, or a BSA 12.
Cheers
Trev
easyrider604
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I have a Glenfield Marlin 70 which is an older version of the 795. It is lighter than the 60. I feel like I can get back on target for a follow-up shot better with the 60 with its heavier front end, not that a 22LR has significant recoil. If you like the 795 for its quick re-loading, look into a tube mag reloader like the Spee-D-Loader. It has 8-tubes in a compact cylinder and I want a couple myself.
I am not familiar with the 60/scope combo but IMO, a fixed 4X - 32 scope with fine reticle will work better than say a 4-12X - 40AO (adjustable objective) unit.
The fixed power scope stays in focus and are parallax-free from 50 meters onward. Some are in-focus already from 30 meters on. No need to fiddle with adjustable objectives either.
Entry level 4X -32 are cheap but you have to find one with a fine reticule such as the Jason brand (which I have found to have clear and bright optics for the price). I have a Nikko 4-32 that has good optics but the crosshairs are thicker than the Jason's. My Bushnell's is just another hair thicker than the Nikko.
Nice thing with the mid-priced Bushnell AO variable power scopes is that they have fine reticules. They work nicely at the range where the target distances are known and fixed. In the field, you have to estimate range, then set the AO. Difficult and then if the target moves as they are wont to do, the image and parallax goes out of focus. So a fixed power non-AO is what should work better in the field.
