Which 22lr revolver?

I don't know about the other jams but that one in atr's link looks suspiciously like at least one badly cut chamber. Rimfire brass should not be able to bulge like the owner found. The bulge is causing the casing to lock back with pressure against the recoil shield instead of moving back into the cylinder after discharging. It's the pressure against the recoil shield that is causing the lockup.

The gun and examples of that brass needs to be sent in for warranty replacement of the cylinder.

Sadly this does occur more with S&W products nowadays than on the past. They don't seem to take as much time with quality control inspections as they used to do. In the US S&W is prompt to make this stuff right. But up here in Canada the outfit which is the warranty center is over worked or under staffed and returns take way too long.
 
I have had 4 different revolvers with a 22mag cylinder to switch out. I always wondered how come each and every switch cylinder I've owned only shot EITHER .22lr OR .22mag really well.
Then I learned that .22lr is a .222" diameter. .22mag is a true .224" diameter. Depending on how the barrel is bored out, chances are only one of the diameters will shoot well.
The .22lr bullet is a lump of lead (often copper washed but not jacketed) that has to expand or "swage" in order to catch/fill the rifling. Some brands will expand better than others due to the powder charge and hardness of the lead.
The .22mag uses a jacketed bullet of larger diameter. No swaging needed. Once I understood that there is a good chance only one kind of ammo (.22lr or mag) will work well, I decided why bother, and only buy revolvers that are CALIBER specific now. Kinda like throwing a hotdog down a hallway.
 
atr said:
How the fvck would I know how many have been sent back but my guess would be lots . Below is just one of the youtube vids that I found in 5 minutes . There are probably a dozen vids and if you check the rimfire boards you'll find lots of complaints especially of the ones manufactured in the last year . I found this during my research on a new revolver and this is a big reason I ordered to Ruger SP101 . We can't just send guns straight back to Smith & Wesson .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9BMdzl4rNQ
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Thank you very much for the info. It is wonderful that we have such an expert on the site.

You can't inagine anything on the internet that isn't true can you. Even if it is true and it probably is every gun maker has there problems.

How would you know if the gun has been screwed with or not?

Thanks again for suppling us with this knowledge as it will make us all better people.

Graydog
 
Again...can't recommend Alfa Proj enough.

I own the 2251.

Very nice for the price.

I would suggest the stainless. I've handled it and is nicer in my opinion.












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atr said:
Ruger SP 101 .22 LR . Had a chance to shoot one and now have one on order . Forget the 617 . Lots of guys sending the newer ones back . Fire 2 or 3 rounds and it locks up . I have a Smith 63 Kit Gun and a Single Six . We were shooting pop cans off hand easily at 50 yards with the SP101 . Kinda pricey @ $815.00 . 4.25" barrel and not much bigger than my Kit Gun .
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4pTbwI9YSPU
ATR I found this within 15 seconds searching the internet, does this mean that all Ruger SP 101's are bad?

I think not.

Graydog
 
Thanks cableguy. I totally enjoy my 9mm AP but I've never shot their rimfire versions. So I was hesitant to suggest the Alfas.

Did you swap the mainspring for a Rusty Wood spring or are you "suffering" with the rather stiff stock spring?

The RW spring made my 9mm feel like a Wolff sprung S&W K frame. And I've got a few of those so I'm in a good position to know.
 
BCRider said:
Thanks cableguy. I totally enjoy my 9mm AP but I've never shot their rimfire versions. So I was hesitant to suggest the Alfas.

Did you swap the mainspring for a Rusty Wood spring or are you "suffering" with the rather stiff stock spring?

The RW spring made my 9mm feel like a Wolff sprung S&W K frame. And I've got a few of those so I'm in a good position to know.
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The spring kit is an absolute must...it turns a "meh" trigger into a "yeah" trigger.

I did find that Blazers required one washer to reliably fire 100%. I was getting a ftf 1 out of 50 which is too high for me.

But funny enough...I took out the washer to fire a brick of AE and was 100%.......harder rim primer on Blazer Bulk....maybe.

Love the 4.5 barrel.....great balance........I haven't taken out my 617 in about a year if that's any credit to Alfa.
 
I've been debating on a Ruger SP101 for my first handgun, I shot a fellow's at the range and loved it, but over on rimfirecentral there isn't much love for it. I guess I can always buy one in person and inspect it really good. The quality seems to be hit or miss, as well as accuracy.
 
The NAA's are great fun. But they aren't a serious gun for any manner of target shooting. There's just no way to really get a good hold on them.

Oddly enough the Earl I've got is surprisingly accurate once I figured out how to hold it and pull the hellishly hard spur trigger. But I can't see them as a serious gun for serious target shooting.

But once you already have a serious gun? OH YEAH! ! ! ! !
 
Just a heads up my SP101 seems to gum up after a hundred rounds or so and needs a shot of CLP on the cylinder rod or the trigger gets really heavy. I like the gun but you can't just shoot it all day without cleaning it.
 
Roddy said:
Just a heads up my SP101 seems to gum up after a hundred rounds or so and needs a shot of CLP on the cylinder rod or the trigger gets really heavy. I like the gun but you can't just shoot it all day without cleaning it.
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Really? I guess it depends on the gun? I've shot all kinds of ammo in one sitting: 22short, 22short CB, 22LR (copper jacketed, waxed lead) somewhere in the range of 500-600 rounds and the gun still ran, I just ran out of ammo..
 
Adam134 said:
Really? I guess it depends on the gun? I've shot all kinds of ammo in one sitting: 22short, 22short CB, 22LR (copper jacketed, waxed lead) somewhere in the range of 500-600 rounds and the gun still ran, I just ran out of ammo..
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Maybe the timing is out on mine and it is spitting lead into the action? It's quite old and I got it used so I have no idea how it's been treated but if the scratches are any clue it wasn't babied.
 
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