Which 3 antiques would you get if you were to get 1 of each category?

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ygong said:
45-70 - is it really +6" at 100 yrds?

Are the Colt and 10 ga even considered antique?
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If it takes a 10 gauge shotshell, yes its considered a firearm in Canada. As a muzzleloading shotgun (antique) no.

A Colt Peacemaker in the prescribed centrefire caliber, Pre-1898 manufacture, is legal antique.
A real antique Colt Walker or real antique Colt Dragoon (cap&ball sixgun) is legal antique. But financially out of reach for most of us IMO.

Your question on 45-70 is impossible to answer. Hence my prior claim of a 'good' 45-70 rifle.

Condition of the rifle is everything.
 
Depends if we're talking collectible or just for general use.

For collectibility:
Rifle: Evans rifle (doesn't qualify because mag fed) or a Baker rifle
Pistol: Webley or C96
Shotgun: Either a flintlock sxs 12 gauge or a pre-1898 drilling of some kind. The Sjogren would be another but it just barely fails to meet antique status by date and gauge.

If for pure use:
Rifle: Rolling block of some kind
Pistol: Webley or C96
Shotgun: Flintlock fowler of some kind.
 
Depends on what you are looking for.

For rifles your pretty limited. Easiest to find ammo for would be something in .45-70, either a rolling block or Trapdoor Springfield. Personally I would want something like a P53 muzzleloading rifle, but that is just me. Most of these rifles will aim differently with different ammo and the sights will likely not be what you are used to from modern firearms.

For a shotgun, some sort of muzzle loader as the majority of centerfire cartridge ones are not antiques (legally), and even if they were you would have to load black powder shells for the majority of them anyways due to needing lower pressures. Basically save yourself a step and get a double barrel percussion cap shotgun.

For a pistol, this is surprisingly where there is the most variety and where you are able to get more modern ammo usually. Things like the 1892 French Ordinance revolver in 8mm Lebel Revolver, or a antique Webley in .455 are good options.
 
Antique in the sense they would just be displayed in my future mansion lol.....

1873 Winchester
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Borchardt Pistol
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Brown Bess loaded with shot
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Myself a own a Pre-1898 Drilling in 10x10x45-70.



It is considered a firearm in Canada, despite it's age, because it takes loaded shells.

It was by no means inexspensive to import from Texas, nor was some minor fitting required to shoot it safely.

And newly manufactured 10 gauge brass hulls, I also had to import at considerable cost also.
 
Brutus said:
It is considered a firearm in Canada, despite it's age, because it takes loaded shells.
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actually it is considered a firearm in Canada because the shotgun barrels are chambered for cartridges commercially available (roughly speaking) Shotguns of 8 guage or larger, 14, 24 and 32 guage are all considered to be antiques if manufactured before 1898. Nice looking gun

cheers mooncoon
 
ygong said:
In the case of the 71 Mauser rifle, is only the single shot version considered antique?
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Only the single shot is antique as the repeater has a magazine and is centerfire. Only repeating antique rifles are rimfire rifles (which do not shoot .22 Calibre Short, .22 Calibre Long or .22 Calibre Long Rifle cartridges) or ones with multiple barrels.

•manufactured before 1898 that can discharge centre-fire cartridges (whether with a smooth or rifled bore), have a bore diameter of 8.3 mm or greater, measured from land to land in the case of a rifled bore, with the exception of a repeating firearm fed by any type of cartridge magazine;
 
Eaglelord17 said:
Only the single shot is antique as the repeater has a magazine and is centerfire. Only repeating antique rifles are rimfire rifles (which do not shoot .22 Calibre Short, .22 Calibre Long or .22 Calibre Long Rifle cartridges) or ones with multiple barrels.

•manufactured before 1898 that can discharge centre-fire cartridges (whether with a smooth or rifled bore), have a bore diameter of 8.3 mm or greater, measured from land to land in the case of a rifled bore, with the exception of a repeating firearm fed by any type of cartridge magazine;
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I called the CFC and spoke to a tech asking about this a while back after the registry ended and was told the 71/84 can only be considered antique if it made before 1897, is over 8.3mm in calibre and not a repeating firearm fed by a magazine. If it is permanently converted to single shot only by the removal of the magazine, permanent blocking of the hole were it went through the stock and removal of or altering of the parts that made it a magazine feed rifle and means it can not be converted back to a repeating firearm easily or without extensive tool work it now confirms to the law as written.

It becomes a antique status firearm under the law now as it no longer is a repeating arm or has a magazine. There is nothing in the law as written that says you can not convert a pre 1897 firearm to fit the requirements stated in law otherwise re-barreling non magazine pre 1897 rifles and pre 1897 handguns to other calibres would also be not allowed.

This is how it was explained over the phone to me.
 
mkrnel said:
I called the CFC and spoke to a tech asking about this a while back after the registry ended and was told the 71/84 can only be considered antique if it made before 1897, is over 8.3mm in calibre and not a repeating firearm fed by a magazine. If it is permanently converted to single shot only by the removal of the magazine, permanent blocking of the hole were it went through the stock and removal of or altering of the parts that made it a magazine feed rifle and means it can not be converted back to a repeating firearm easily or without extensive tool work it now confirms to the law as written.
It becomes a antique status firearm under the law now as it no longer is a repeating arm or has a magazine. There is nothing in the law as written that says you can not convert a pre 1897 firearm to fit the requirements stated in law otherwise re-barreling non magazine pre 1897 rifles and pre 1897 handguns to other calibres would also be not allowed.
This is how it was explained over the phone to me.
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Not saying that isn't true, just that a unaltered M71/84 is not a antique (a altered one would basically just be a M71 anyways). I think what the OP is trying to do is get a list of the most 'modern' firearms he can buy without a PAL. In the case of antique rifles, only centerfire single shots with a bore greater than 8.3mm are antiques (the only way to get a centerfire with multiple shots being a double barrel of some sort).
 
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