Which aftermarket parts for Sub 2000?

Bubba Yugga said:
Not just mushy, but wiggly waggly too. The metal trigger is night'n'day better.....
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I won't deny that the aluminum trigger feels nicer, but the original plastic trigger on my recent production S2K was not bad at all. No flex that I could tell, and no more wiggle than the aluminum MCARBO trigger.

I know there have been unannounced updates to the design and construction of the Sub2000 since the Gen2 was introduced. I'm talking about changes to the Gen2, not just changes from Gen1 to Gen2. Maybe the trigger was one of the changes?
 
joemanco said:
IMO S2K is one of those pure designs where more toys means less wow. It's smallest and lightest in class, don't break that uniqueness - avoid electronics. Add a recoiless charging handle and buffer tube cover, then stop and enjoy it in its purest form. If it's your only PCC then consider doing all the MCARBO internals in one go and call it Gucci. Enjoy.
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I tend to agree, if I were to make changes, they'd all be upgrades like the ones you mentioned above, plus the buffer and trigger kit, rear sight upgrade.

I feel like if I'm tearing the thing apart to add anything I might as well do it all at once, but first I want to shoot it and see what I think of it all.

I was in the local shop yesterday and finally got to handle one and I really liked it, it didn't feel as cheap and plasticy as many online reviews made it out to be. It had a trigger lock on though so I never got to feel the trigger. Charging handle was a bit stiff as reported but hardly a major issue in my eyes. Found the rear sight to be ok, but not great, but the height actually seemed to work pretty well with my facial structure, it was low but totally workable.
 
I had a SUB2000 fully built with Mcarbo, KelTec brass (sumo) bolt weight. I did end up selling it and going to do a full build on a Ruger PC and absolutely love it. But with the SUB2000 for a clean backpacker build i would suggest;

- complete Mcarbo trigger kit (night and day with weight, travel and reset)
- Mcarbo heavy charging handle (much much easier charging)
- Mcarbo cheek tube cover (cold days or a beard and you will thank me)
- Mcarbo buttpad (since the recoil impulse is not hard but different it really helps, plus the small added lop is nice too)
- Mcarbo notch site (notch sits slightly lower which makes a world of difference if using ONLY irons)

I had alot more stuff added to mine but thats what i would do for a comfy reliable backpacker. But thats just what i prefer, as stated earlier, go shoot and maybe youll love it stock.
 

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I agree, shoot and see if you like it!

I have mine with all mcarbo upgrades with some fun extras like folding front sight and a nice butt pad. I would say its really made it into a fun little carbine!
 
I sold my Sub2K but one thing I did do to make the iron sights work better for me was to take a drill bit a tad narrower than the rear sight and open it up . While the difference in size is small the added width did make a difference. Don't get to greedy though. Leave enough plastic to ensure you don't end up with a lazy C rear sight.

I added quite a few of the McCarbo parts but found for the most part they were more cosmetic than practical. The gun is no target rifle bit for a light weight back packer it works.

If you want the gun for a small game collector while you walk the wilds I think a .22lr packer would be a much better option. For the ubiquitous need for "bear" or "cat" defense carry a 12 gauge packer with slugs. The latter solves the aggressive thoughts of strangers as well. Even a 20 gauge would serve you better than the 9MM and double as a bird collector with shot. Just saying.

Take Care

Bob
 
jepree said:
I had a SUB2000 fully built with Mcarbo, KelTec brass (sumo) bolt weight. I did end up selling it and going to do a full build on a Ruger PC and absolutely love it. But with the SUB2000 for a clean backpacker build i would suggest;

- complete Mcarbo trigger kit (night and day with weight, travel and reset)
- Mcarbo heavy charging handle (much much easier charging)
- Mcarbo cheek tube cover (cold days or a beard and you will thank me)
- Mcarbo buttpad (since the recoil impulse is not hard but different it really helps, plus the small added lop is nice too)
- Mcarbo notch site (notch sits slightly lower which makes a world of difference if using ONLY irons)

I had alot more stuff added to mine but thats what i would do for a comfy reliable backpacker. But thats just what i prefer, as stated earlier, go shoot and maybe youll love it stock.
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Minus the buttpad this is more or less exactly what I was thinking of doing(and perhaps the aperture over the notched rear sight but still undecided there).

Still plan to shoot it first and then take it from there and see what I feel is worth spending the money on. It'll be at least a couple weeks before I get a chamce to shoot it though as I just put it in the mail today to return it to AmChar for warranty replacement.

On the bright side, 10mm brass and 40 cal bullets arrived in the mail today so I'll be ready to get the ASR out for some range time when it shows next week.
 
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Canuck44 said:
I sold my Sub2K but one thing I did do to make the iron sights work better for me was to take a drill bit a tad narrower than the rear sight and open it up . While the difference in size is small the added width did make a difference. Don't get to greedy though. Leave enough plastic to ensure you don't end up with a lazy C rear sight.

I added quite a few of the McCarbo parts but found for the most part they were more cosmetic than practical. The gun is no target rifle bit for a light weight back packer it works.

If you want the gun for a small game collector while you walk the wilds I think a .22lr packer would be a much better option. For the ubiquitous need for "bear" or "cat" defense carry a 12 gauge packer with slugs. The latter solves the aggressive thoughts of strangers as well. Even a 20 gauge would serve you better than the 9MM and double as a bird collector with shot. Just saying.

Take Care

Bob
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I will likely carry it in the woods at times for plinking and use it to hopefully shoot a few grouse and snowshoe hares. I have a number of guns that I could use for bears but I'm not overly concerned with them, worry more about my dog getting involved with them as he's run off both blacks and grizzlies in the past but he may run in to one at some point that doesn't want to run away, or perhaps run in to wolves, so having a centerfire of some kind would be better than none at all though a 9mm carbine wouldn't be my first choice. Should that day come hopefully I'll have one of my other guns with me.
 
Iron Sighted said:
I will likely carry it in the woods at times for plinking and use it to hopefully shoot a few grouse and snowshoe hares. I have a number of guns that I could use for bears but I'm not overly concerned with them, worry more about my dog getting involved with them as he's run off both blacks and grizzlies in the past but he may run in to one at some point that doesn't want to run away, or perhaps run in to wolves, so having a centerfire of some kind would be better than none at all though a 9mm carbine wouldn't be my first choice. Should that day come hopefully I'll have one of my other guns with me.
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Good luck with your Sub2k. It certainly is a great little plinker and the folding feature is cool. Would do well on bunnies not so sure on the birds if you have eating in mind.

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
Good luck with your Sub2k. It certainly is a great little plinker and the folding feature is cool. Would do well on bunnies not so sure on the birds if you have eating in mind.

Take Care

Bob
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I mostly shoot grouse on the ground in the head or neck with a .22, I'm thinking the 9mm bullet will be ok in that same application, definitely a mess if shot in the body I'd expect.
 
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