Which caliber of 1895 Marlin

Time to chime in. A new 1895 literally just followed me home a few minutes ago. I chose the .45/70 cartridge. I handload, so that's not an issue and I would suggest you do the same. With the .45/70 you have better versatlity over the .444 and .450 factory loads. Right off the bat you can easily get factory loaded 300-405 grain ammunition. The other 2 are more limited. There are also a few manufaturers who offer +P loaded ammo to give you the extra jam. I might also suggest when your talking about these cartridges, don't even bother looking at ballistics charts. The cartridges don't listen to them. They have a tendancy to do things paper says they shouldn't, like kill buffalo from 1000 yards and such.

I have long lusted over one of these and just recently I decided I needed a big-bore rifle. I was in a tight race between this and a completely different animal, a .375 H&H. In the end, I decided the lever to be a more useful rifle for what I want to do with it. And I must add the thing that really had me intruiged was an article I read awhile back. The fellow loaded his 1895 up with some heavy weight ammo by Cor-Bon and went to Africa to shoot a cape buffalo. In the end, he shot two...with one shot. The bullet penetrated the first bull, passed completly thru and entered a cow that was hidden behind the first bull. It double lunged her and I belive stopped on the off side of the cow. That is amazing penetration that I doubt any .30 caliber super whizbang ultrasuperdupper magnum could acomplish. And again, according to the charts this rifle barely has enough energy to kill a deer, if you could hit it at all with it's pre-historic rainbow tragectory.

My suggestion to you is this; Throw away anything you have read. Don't study ballistics charts or energy tables. Buy yourself one of these in .45/70 and then buy yourself a loading press. Build your own ammo, tailored to how you want to hunt. Then take your new rifle for a walk and enjoy it the way it was meant to be. Good luck.
 
My suggestion to you is this; Throw away anything you have read. Don't study ballistics charts or energy tables. Buy yourself one of these in .45/70 and then buy yourself a loading press. Build your own ammo, tailored to how you want to hunt. Then take your new rifle for a walk and enjoy it the way it was meant to be. Good luck.

I agree 100%, about the only thing I'd add is that you really don't need to hot rod the old girl to be more than effective on game.
 
if you are not a handloader, get a 450.
If you only the gun a few times a year, and are not much of a rifle guy or target shooter, handloading might not be want you want.

I hunt with a bunch of guys an less than half handload. I have gone to the range with some shooters who also hunt, and they all handload.


Basically, if I was looking for a gun that gets used maybe half dozen times a year, I ain't buying it if soemone tells me i also need to buy equipment to handload for it, work on loads, spend considerable time at the range, ...

Buy a 450 and a box of bullets. Take 10 bullets to sight it in 3 high at 100 hundred, and the other ones can be used 1 per moose :D
That's 10 moose!

There are a lot of guys out there that don't want to have to handload.
I don't. I want a gun that i buy the bullets, put them in, banha bear or moose with authority, and get on with it.

Go 450 all the way

i know go guys who have a box of bullets that lasts for maybe 3 years or more. They are not shooters. They go out in hunting sseason and make sure the sight are on. and then the next bullet that is fired will be on an animal, and after that it might be the next season before it's fired again.

I am a duck hunter for all intention purposes, but I do like to go for big game now and then. When I do, I want a rifle Ilike, that i can buy good factory ammo for, and packs a whallop. 450 !
 
if you are not a handloader, get a 450.
If you only the gun a few times a year, and are not much of a rifle guy or target shooter, handloading might not be want you want.

I hunt with a bunch of guys an less than half handload. I have gone to the range with some shooters who also hunt, and they all handload.


Basically, if I was looking for a gun that gets used maybe half dozen times a year, I ain't buying it if soemone tells me i also need to buy equipment to handload for it, work on loads, spend considerable time at the range, ...

Buy a 450 and a box of bullets. Take 10 bullets to sight it in 3 high at 100 hundred, and the other ones can be used 1 per moose :D
That's 10 moose!

There are a lot of guys out there that don't want to have to handload.
I don't. I want a gun that i buy the bullets, put them in, banha bear or moose with authority, and get on with it.

Go 450 all the way

i know go guys who have a box of bullets that lasts for maybe 3 years or more. They are not shooters. They go out in hunting sseason and make sure the sight are on. and then the next bullet that is fired will be on an animal, and after that it might be the next season before it's fired again.

I am a duck hunter for all intention purposes, but I do like to go for big game now and then. When I do, I want a rifle Ilike, that i can buy good factory ammo for, and packs a whallop. 450 !

So I take it that you sold your 45-70 then?
 
So I take it that you sold your 45-70 then?

No, but I had access to a handloader who sent me some bangers.
I shot 10 of them, 30 of them sit in the closet, and I often wake up in the middle of te night with cold sweats half crying scared someone may force me to shoot another one of those cartridges.;):D

The first time I went to the range with the gun and those 10 bullets there were about 15 guys there shooting, a few people drinking coffee in their trucks, etc. It was a covered shooting area where you sit, but outside. I fired 3 bullets as fast as I could at a target nailed to ply wood
There was junks of plywood and splintered post everywhere, and people were looking at me like when tackleberry fired his gun in the police academy movie.
It was like suspended animation with all eyes on me.

I quietly, and painfully picked up my brass, put the gun away, drove home and put ice on my shoulder. i knew no one at the range so I spoke to no one.
i'm sure no one had fired another bullet until I was actually driving out the gate.
It was like a "What the #### was that" moment.
 
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