Which handgun in .40 cal?

My M&P came with no mag disconnect, BTW.

Glocks are like 1911s.... A good step towards an ideal sidearm, but now surpassed by newer technology. Of course, I've never seen a 1911 KB, and I did see a G17 fail once... So maybe they were a step backwards?
 
I'm gonna get beaten up for this comment!!!! But I've had a Beretta 96 for 16 yrs, put over 10,000 rds through it without any FTF. Can't say that about my Glocks, HP, or 1911 I've had.
 
I have a Sig P226 in .40 - great gun, flawless operation, and I like the weight because its not a poly frame. More accurate than I am too.
 
i am really happy with my XDM
up side is it is accurate and comfortable enough that freehand at 25 meters i can keep 10 rounds in a four inch circle
downside to it is there is only one dealer in canada that i know of atm getting them so you are stuck to what is in stock or waiting on the next order. The mags are pinned with a rivit through the 12 hole and after loading ten rounds the mag spring gets caught and the slide wont lock open after the last round. fixable but a pita till it is done. i wont complane thoe as it was a cheaper option than the other outfit was doing and these pistols acctualy showed up in canada. one other thing is i have personally found Springfield has a crappy service, i have had a burnt out front sight on my XD .45 from new and it seems to be a lost cause.
hmm spell check is not working atm, live with it.
 
I'm gonna get beaten up for this comment!!!! But I've had a Beretta 96 for 16 yrs, put over 10,000 rds through it without any FTF. Can't say that about my Glocks, HP, or 1911 I've had.

Ken Hackathorn (in his old column in American Handgunner) once said that he regarded the out-of-the-box reliability of the Beretta 92FS/M9 to be superior to anything else, and that, if he had to carry a firearm that he had never test fired, he would trust the Beretta 92FS/M9 the most.

FWIW
 
Ken Hackathorn (in his old column in American Handgunner) once said that he regarded the out-of-the-box reliability of the Beretta 92FS/M9 to be superior to anything else, and that, if he had to carry a firearm that he had never test fired, he would trust the Beretta 92FS/M9 the most.

FWIW

sounds like a good article...any chance you have a link to it? (beretta fan here)

anyways, that said, I'd toss out a vote for a 96 or a 90two in .40

A friend of mine has the 90two, and we haven't talked about that one in awhile, but i believe he really likes it, if memory serves.
 
Of course, no one has asked what I consider the most salient question of our OP:

Why .40?

9mm will do everything you want to the targets, less expensively.
 
Browning High Power, it comes in 9 and 40.

+1 for the BHP. Toss the magazine disconnect and replace the 32lb hammer spring with a 26lb one and you will end up with a decent trigger.

I quite like mine:
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The M&P is superior. Is it because of...

the "safer" magazine disconnect?
the "safer" integral locking device?
the "safer" sear-disconnect disassembly process?
the "new and improved" striker?
the S, M, and L backstraps?


What about the scarcity (in Canada) of no-mag-disconnect models?
What about the scarcity of replacement strikers?
What about the reduced number of holster options?
What about the lack of a .22LR conversion kit?

The Glock is not better because there are more aftermarket parts, holsters, and accessories available for it than the M&P, although there are. The Glock is not better because more soldiers, sailors, and aviators carry it than the M&P, although they do. The Glock is not better because more police officers in Canada, the United States, and the world, carry it than the M&P, although they do. The Glock is not better because one can buy every single part for the pistol, either Glock or aftermarket, your choice - from the striker to the trigger to the frame, every part.

Glocks are everywhere. Everybody and his dog has a Glock. If you hate to follow the crowd, and you prefer to be the first one on your block with the brand-new-and-improved 2011 model of whatever is rare and relatively hard to get parts for, I guess the Glock is not for you. As for me, simple, common, and proven-reliable is a virtue; given a choice between the Gen3 and the Gen4 Glock, I would take the proven Gen3.

(I'll leave the beta testing to you guys. ;))

lol well most of the world uses AK47 and not SR-25 EMCs or Swiss Arms but that doesnt make it better.:D
 
And Now, Without Mincing Words, The World's Most Reliable Handgun Is...

Ken Hackathorn (in his old column in American Handgunner) once said that he regarded the out-of-the-box reliability of the Beretta 92FS/M9 to be superior to anything else, and that, if he had to carry a firearm that he had never test fired, he would trust the Beretta 92FS/M9 the most.

FWIW
sounds like a good article...any chance you have a link to it? (beretta fan here)

And Now, Without Mincing Words, The World's Most Reliable Handgun Is...

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-56221699.html
American Handgunner articles > September 1999

And Now, Without Mincing Words, The World's Most Reliable Handgun Is...
Article from:
American Handgunner Article date: September 1, 1999 Author: HACKATHORN, KEN


The only handgun that I would buy over the counter brand new, load with ammo and stick in my belt for self-defense without test firing to insure that it is totally reliable is the Beretta M92. Given a chance, I would always prefer to test fire any small arm that 1 stake my life on, but the Beretta M92 has such a great track record for reliable operation that I would gladly pack one without firing a round of live ammo.

After a decade and a half of issue and worldwide use, Beretta has just introduced a number of modified M92/96 pistols that include many product improvements. After viewing these new "Elite" series pistols at the '99 SHOT Show, I obtained a M92 G Elite pistol for my own use.

Improvements to these Elite pistols represent an effort to make the already popular Beretta an even more desirable sidearm. The changes include a heavier slide that comes from the Brigadier pistol. Beretta made the Brigadier slide heavy and reinforced at critical areas. For use with .40 S&W chambered Model 96 pistols, a greater slide mass made for a stronger pistol that would not fail.

Many M92 pistols have had slide fractures in the area where the locking block rests when the pistol is in battery. This critical area on the Brigadier slide is well reinforced to keep any stress to a minor level.

On the Elite pistols, the Brigadier slide has front grasping grooves to make slide cycling easy, plus a dovetail front sight. This allows for front sight replacement, and installing of tritium insert sights by aftermarket sources.

Most importantly, the Elite M92/96 pistols are of the "G" model series. "G" model Beretta M92/96 pistols have a slide-mounted decocker-only function. While M92F/M9 pistols have a slide-mounted ambidextrous safety/decocker, the Elite models require only the downward movement of the slide-mounted decock lever to safely lower the hammer.

Once this is done, releasing the decocker lever will return it to the upward position via spring pressure. The M92F pistol is fine for less trained operators where the manual of arms requires that any time the pistol is loaded or unloaded, the safety lever is first engaged to make sure that any sloppy gun handling will not result in an accidental discharge while loading or clearing the pistol.

For the more skilled or professional gunhandler who has learned that you do not put your finger in the trigger guard unless you wish to make a loud noise, the simple decocker-only function of the slide mounted lever is favored.

I have preferred the M92 G series pistol for some time. I have used a M92 G as my favorite Beretta for a couple of years. This feature on the M92/96 Elite is welcome and, as the Elite name reflects, this pistol is for the professional gunman.



HACKATHORN, KEN. "And Now, Without Mincing Words, The World's Most Reliable Handgun Is...(Brief Article)." American Handgunner. Publishers' Development Corporation. 1999. HighBeam Research. 18 Sep. 2010 <http://www.highbeam.com>.

HACKATHORN, KEN. "And Now, Without Mincing Words, The World's Most Reliable Handgun Is...(Brief Article)." American Handgunner. 1999. HighBeam Research. (September 18, 2010). http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-56221699.html

HACKATHORN, KEN. "And Now, Without Mincing Words, The World's Most Reliable Handgun Is...(Brief Article)." American Handgunner. Publishers' Development Corporation. 1999. Retrieved September 18, 2010 from HighBeam Research: http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-56221699.html

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Why .40?

Why not 9mm, .40, 38 spec, 44 mag, .45ACP... etc?

Do you have only one gun?

I don't. :D

I only have one centrefire handgun, after 20 years of frickin' around with less ideal designs and calibres, I have settled on an M&P in .45 - Because I reload the cartridge, and expect that the relatively low pressure of this cartridge will permit me to shoot this pistol with no issues until such time as something better comes along, or I will the pistol to my daughter.

Your mileage may vary, but some of us have neither the budget, nor the time, to justify more than one handgun. If I was not a reloader, I would go for 9mm, as it is a heck of a lot cheaper than .40 to run, and if push comes to shove, does just as good a job in the goblin-cleansing, if the operator places rounds properly.

The only reason that .40 is such a popular round in law enforcement, is because it was cool when introduced, and police officers, generally, only get to practice once or twice per year.... A little extra energy might come in handy for those who spray and pray.

Just my humble opinion.
 
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