Which is the Better Sniper Rifle: K98K or Mosin?

That's right you factor in the Man, the Cartridge, the weapon system, including optics, training and tactics, ONE ON ONE IN AN EQUAL MATCH,, THE MOSIN EQUIPPED RUSSIAN DOES NOT STAND A CHANCE AGAINST THE MAUSER EQUIPED GERMAN IN 1942. :

Waffen SS Sniper team :sniper: :runaway:

Russian Red Army Sniper team :shotgun: :dancingbanana:
 
I did see a documentary on History Television that compared a Russian sniper to a German one. Ballistically they were pretty equal, but the Russian rifle worked better in the cold, as did the scope.

Keeping in mind that a) many shows are loath to show anything 'nazzi' as good and b) this same channel had a show that determined the Sherman was better than the Tiger, 'cause they's was lots of 'em.

This is probably the M16 vs AK47 thread. The Mauser was better built, but the Mosin probably handled crap conditions a little better.

So, as to the question; Which is the better sniper rifle, K98k or Mosin?

Yes.
 
K98ACTION said:
That's right you factor in the Man, the Cartridge, the weapon system, including optics, training and tactics, ONE ON ONE IN AN EQUAL MATCH,, THE MOSIN EQUIPPED RUSSIAN DOES NOT STAND A CHANCE AGAINST THE MAUSER EQUIPED GERMAN IN 1942. :

Waffen SS Sniper team :sniper: :runaway:

Russian Red Army Sniper team :shotgun: :dancingbanana:
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The capital letters really make your argument convincing.
 
After my initial post I have to make a further evaluation.

Conditions - for a range or short term (2 weeks?) trip I would take a scoped mauser any day. The gun is very well built and unlikely to malfuntion. It can take abuse, but not huge amounts of it without getting fussy. It will still of course function, but to a lesser degree.

For a longer term trip, I would take a mosin - the fact is that with effort you can make pieces for it with basic hand tools. If you're talking no spare parts for long times, or simply having it handle abuse for a long time, I'd say mosin.


I currently have a scoped mauser, but it annoys me that I have to remove the scope to see the iron sights. Until I got more ammo for my mauser, I shot my mosin more.

Edit - once my mosin is scoped up, I'll let you know my final answer. I'm more comfortable with the mosin, but that's only use talking, so we'll have to see.
 
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The mauser is the better rifle then the mauser, however they could both do a good job. You could easily bring in the Lee Enfield and the Springfield 1903 as well. The simple truth is that they were all good enough to do the job, provided that the man behind the rifle did his!
 
Consider the world's highest killing sniper was a Finn using an unscoped mosin, and racked up over 400 kills...the winner is Mauser? That crack must be good smokin...
 
Riflechair said:
ollie read my post again and stop being condescending. You're reading too much into what I wrote. My ignore list just got bigger.
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I shed a tear...does this mean you won't respond to my PM's to buy your overpriced bubbaed rifles? Well, I guess the 15 minutes labour you put into stripping, sanding, and refinishing the stocks of your subpar arms is worth the extra $200...High gloss varnish can't come cheap these days...

but staying on topic, Mosin FTW! Certainly the better rifle, if only because the Russians produced enough to arm more men and women and ultimately win the war. The K98 is a superbly engineered piece, but over-engineered. The M91/variant was equally effective and more easily built. That's a logisitcal winner for any military, IMHO.
 
canuck98k said:
I did see a documentary on History Television that compared a Russian sniper to a German one. Ballistically they were pretty equal, but the Russian rifle worked better in the cold, as did the scope.

Keeping in mind that a) many shows are loath to show anything 'nazzi' as good and b) this same channel had a show that determined the Sherman was better than the Tiger, 'cause they's was lots of 'em.

This is probably the M16 vs AK47 thread. The Mauser was better built, but the Mosin probably handled crap conditions a little better.

So, as to the question; Which is the better sniper rifle, K98k or Mosin?

Yes.
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The Mosin worked better in the cold only because the Ruskies were mixing gasoline in with the oil they were putting on their rifles for lube.I saw the same documentary........:wave:
As far as the M16-AK 47 argument goes,the AK is a better assault rifle.
 
Scenario:
you can choose between two rifles...

1. Mosin Nagant Mod. 91 Sniper version with all the bells and whistles,
Brand new condition...
2. Mauser Mod K 98 Sniper Version witha ll the bells and whistles,
Brand new condition...

Now seriously which one would YOU take?

BTW both rifles are more then excellent as sniping rifles of their days.
The most important factor is the Guy who pulls the trigger...
Kind of like hunters, some have guns worth several thausands of dollars and never shoot a deer.
And then there is the guy with his old bubba'd Enfield who gets his quota every single hunting season.
 
polaris said:
Scenario:
you can choose between two rifles...

1. Mosin Nagant Mod. 91 Sniper version with all the bells and whistles,
Brand new condition...
2. Mauser Mod K 98 Sniper Version with all the bells and whistles,
Brand new condition...
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Is it possible to get them without bells or whistles? I think the enemy would quickly learn to shoot where the jingling and whistling is coming from.
 
skirsons said:
Is it possible to get them without bells or whistles? I think the enemy would quickly learn to shoot where the jingling and whistling is coming from.
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ahahaha.....sigh. I like accessories, but your right skir, this one I think we can do without.

I would pick the Mosin, partly because that's how I roll, but also because I have been able to get some darn fine results from 100+ MN's

Really though, at the end of the day, its about shooter and rifle condition that will win the day.
 
There is a terrific biography about Sepp Allerberger, the #2 ranked German Sniper. He used the MN and the Russian ammo for the majority of his kills, although after he was formally "trained" as a sniper, he was issued the K98. He makes reference to the fact that the fine tolerances of the 98 were its undoing in winter, but that with good optics, the 98 was a deadly rifle.
 
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