Which pistol would you recommend?

Wait for Marstar or CanadaAmmo to get their Norinco NP-29's in stock. It's a single stack 1911 chambered in 9mm, and they also have a reputation as being some of the nicest finished Norinco 1911's. I have missed out twice so far because I was too slow, and some people buy 2 or 3 at a time :mad:. Also, you will rarely see them on the exchange forum because no one wants to part with them.

I would DEFINITELY recommend shooting some guns chambered in 9mm, 40S&W, and 45ACP to see which round you prefer in terms of the amount, and the 'feel' of the recoil (the weight of the gun also affects recoil). I love 45ACP, and I can reload it for dirt cheap ($7 for 50 rounds), but commercial ammo will set you back $25+ per box :eek:. To be honest, I don't think I would even shoot centerfire handguns if I had to pay for commercial ammo, regardless of caliber.

If you want to keep cost down even more, you could always pickup a used Ruger semi auto 22 pistol. 22 is great for starting because it is cheap for practicing a lot, and you can buy the ammo just about anywhere. I would recommend the Ruger Mark II Target.... if you absolutely cannot find a used Mark II, then a Mark III will do, but it has a number of ultra lame safety features which spoil the gun IMO. Ditch the plastic factory grips and buy a Hogue rubber grip from rimfiresports (they ship for free to Canada), and you have a 22 you can be proud to own, that doesn't feel like a toy. They are really nice, and lot's of fun.
 
First of all thanks for everyones opinions, Im liking this site a lot so far!
I think I made the wrong choice by saying I couldnt afford other guns. I mainly said that because I didnt want people to hack on me and tell me to not buy the norincos. I was going to wait a while to buy a handgun since I am brand new to the sport but the prices on those changed my mind and for the little amount they cost I dont mind buying one right off the bat. That being said, I still dont want to pay a ton for ammo, and I am thinking the 9mm might be a good start for me to see how much I even get out shooting it. I have already thought that if I do end up shooting a lot I will get into reloading. Thats the other bonus to me of the norinco's. If I get the reloading stuff, I can add a 2nd handgun(.45) to the collection inexpensively afterwards. I Think that with the info here I will probably get a 9mm. Now I have to just choose which one! If anyone has any recommendations between the 3 I posted on the first page that would be awesome!

I should also point out that i have no plans on competition shooting and if I decide that later I would purchase another pistol anyways.
Another good point I should throw out there is that since it will be my first pistol I want one that has little to no problems, no jamming is a big one to me too. Also simplified cleaning and dissasembly would be great for a first pistol.
 
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NZ-75 may be a good choice if you cannot spend $650-750 at this time. The gun will last you very long time, or till you decide to upgrade :D
 
All of the above advice is good and valid, especially when it comes to reloading - regardless of the calibre you shoot, reloading your own ammo is a very good idea. I think shooting a revolver in 38/357 is good advice, the trigger control learned while shooting a revolver will always be a valuable skill with autoloaders, the 38 is very accurate, cheap to shoot, and easy to reload with cheap components. Additionally excellent quality used revolvers are widely available and very affordable. If however your heart's set on an autoloader, a Smith M&P or Glock in 9mm would be a smart place to start.
 
greentourismo said:
...I was going to wait a while to buy a handgun since I am brand new to the sport but the prices on those changed my mind and for the little amount they cost I dont mind buying one right off the bat. That being said, I still dont want to pay a ton for ammo, and I am thinking the 9mm might be a good start for me to see how much I even get out shooting it. I have already thought that if I do end up shooting a lot I will get into reloading. Thats the other bonus to me of the norinco's. If I get the reloading stuff, I can add a 2nd handgun(.45) to the collection inexpensively afterwards. I Think that with the info here I will probably get a 9mm. Now I have to just choose which one! If anyone has any recommendations between the 3 I posted on the first page that would be awesome!

I should also point out that i have no plans on competition shooting and if I decide that later I would purchase another pistol anyways.
Another good point I should throw out there is that since it will be my first pistol I want one that has little to no problems, no jamming is a big one to me too. Also simplified cleaning and dissasembly would be great for a first pistol.
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It is unwise to pay too much. But it is worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money; that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything because the product you bought is incapable of doing what it was bought to do. The common law of business prohibits paying a little and getting a lot. It can’t be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run. And if you do that, you would have enough to pay for something better. There is hardly anything in this world that someone can’t make a little worse and sell a little cheaper-and people who consider price alone are this man’s lawful prey.

By John Ruskin 1819-1900
 
John Ruskin obviously never did any business with the chinese. There is many who will agree with me when I say that some Norinco's are better guns than some of the lower end name brands. Don't feel bad buying a Norinco. I have had mine a year and a bit and put about 3000 rounds through it without any issues at all. It feeds everything I put in it, and is actually pretty nice in the fit and finish. Only thing lacking is the sights.
 
You can also send the Norinco in to Gunnar to have it tuned for $120. Gives the gun a whole different feel, and a wicked trigger.
 
I'm not saying not to buy Norinco, or to buy or not to buy any other particular brand.

What I am saying is that, to be satisfied in the long run, we must be honest with ourselves about our real expectations for the pistol (or other product) and then choose accordingly.

To buy something just because, or primarily because, it has a lower initial cost may be false economy if - in the long run - the product is less-suited (to do the job and thus to fulfill our expectations) than would be another given (higher-cost) product.

I don't think that you can fault Ruskin's logic, because he is correct.
 
Wendell said:
I'm not saying not to buy Norinco, or to buy or not to buy any other particular brand.

What I am saying is that, to be satisfied in the long run, we must be honest with ourselves about our real expectations for the pistol (or other product) and then choose accordingly.

To buy something just because, or primarily because, it has a lower initial cost may be false economy if - in the long run - the product is less-suited (to do the job and thus to fulfill our expectations) than would be another given (higher-cost) product.

I don't think that you can fault Ruskin's logic, because he is correct.
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The main fact here is that I dont really have much free time with running my own business. So I really dont know how often I will be able to get out and get to a range. This is mainly the reason that I bought a rifle first because I can take it anywhere. That being said, I dont mind spending money on an inexpensive pistol and having it sit around not getting used much.

Also, I know they arent the greatest quality or fit and finish, but everyone on here who seems to have them say that they are still good shooters, so Im going to take a chance and if I dont like the quality and I am using it lots, I will buy something better.

So basically I am just looking for anyones opinions on any of the norinco pistols whether they have experience with them or even read about them.
 
Try this, if you haven't already, go to a gun shop that has a good selection of the pistols you are interested in and try a few to see how they feel in your hand. You'd be surprised what a difference there is and this will help you narrow down the field of possibilities - You may not even like the Norinco compared to what else is out there and there is a lot to choose from. Personally, I pick up a Glock and I wonder why anyone would buy such a thing.:stirthepot2: While I find a CZ to be the cat's meow.
 
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Try this, if you haven't already, go to a gun shop that has a good selection of the pistols you are interested in and try a few to see how they feel in your hand. You'd be surprised what a difference there is and this will help you narrow down the field of possibilities - You may not even like the Norinco compared to what else is out there and there is a lot to choose from. Personally, I pick up a Glock and I wonder why anyone would buy such a thing.:stirthepot2: While I find a CZ to be the cat's meow.
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I have been to all the shops locally and unfortunately no one really has much of a selection. Most places only seem to carry used:confused:
 
A Wholesale Sports opened up in Nanaimo not long ago, if that's not too far to go, you can check out their website. You might want to phone ahead to see whats available, as they are warehoused out of Calgary. Another note about the WSS website: what you see there can be, and often is, less then what they actually have, weird but true.
 
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