Which Rifle 270 OR 30-06

Im a die hard .270 guy but I really only hunt whitetail. In your circumstance a 30-06 makes sense but if you are going to primarily hunt whitetail with the odd moose every number of years a .270 may be of interest.

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Has anybody thought about takeing the 30-06 and necking it down to 27 cal?

That would be a great round for big deer,and you could take the 30/30 and neck it up to say .37 cal that would really be great also!

Bob:)
 
The problem with the 270 is that unless you have a premium bullet like a solid copper X bullet or the bonded bullets, those regular jacketed bullets arent really meant for moose. THOSE ARE DEER BULLETS and are quick to open up and often break apart at velocities of 3000 fps when hitting bigger animals such as moose. They were never designed as moose bullets. Penetration is poor and I would ALWAYS RATHER HAVE 2 HOLES IN AN ANIMAL THAN 1. Like I said before, if it didn't go through, it didn't penetrate well, and more than likely broke into ineffective pieces inside. A 130 grain bullet that breaks into 5 or 6 pieces isn't too effective now is it? If you have a single hole in an animal and you dont destroy their lungs or heart, then they will go a long ways before bleeding to death. Not very ethical. 2 holes = lots of bleeding and quick death. I have read a lot of gun writers talk about "the myth that if the bullet stays inside the animal, all the energy is spent inside, well if the bullet exits and mushroomed like it was supposed to, it spent as much energy inside the animal as the bullet that stayed inside, plus it had energy to spare, which it used to punch a second hole to ensure massive blood loss." Doesn't that make sense to any of you? If it punches through, it had at least equal the energy of the single hole bullet, but enough energy for complete penetration to finish the job.
 
There really isn't that much of a difference between the 2, using regular bullets in regular weights. There is even less difference when premium bullets are used.

There have been just too many elk and moose killed by a 270 to discount it as inadequate.

Put a good bullet in the right place, and either will work well. Shoot a bad bullet in the wrong spot, and neither one will make up for poor shot placement.

Anyone that sells 30-06 ammo sells 270 ammo, and there is selection enough in facotry ammo with both to do anything that should be attempted with a 270-30 caliber cartridge...
 
The problem with the 270 is that unless you have a premium bullet like a solid copper X bullet or the bonded bullets, those regular jacketed bullets arent really meant for moose. THOSE ARE DEER BULLETS and are quick to open up and often break apart at velocities of 3000 fps when hitting bigger animals such as moose. They were never designed as moose bullets. Penetration is poor and I would ALWAYS RATHER HAVE 2 HOLES IN AN ANIMAL THAN 1. Like I said before, if it didn't go through, it didn't penetrate well, and more than likely broke into ineffective pieces inside. A 130 grain bullet that breaks into 5 or 6 pieces isn't too effective now is it? If you have a single hole in an animal and you dont destroy their lungs or heart, then they will go a long ways before bleeding to death. Not very ethical. 2 holes = lots of bleeding and quick death. I have read a lot of gun writers talk about "the myth that if the bullet stays inside the animal, all the energy is spent inside, well if the bullet exits and mushroomed like it was supposed to, it spent as much energy inside the animal as the bullet that stayed inside, plus it had energy to spare, which it used to punch a second hole to ensure massive blood loss." Doesn't that make sense to any of you? If it punches through, it had at least equal the energy of the single hole bullet, but enough energy for complete penetration to finish the job.

strange, then 15 or so moose ive seen killed with factory .270 ammo, all died very quickly. none went more then 50m.


I shot my last moose with 160gr RN Imperial ammo (MV 2300FPS) @ 150yrds. it's went down like it had been hit by lightning.
 
If you look at tables of Federal Balistic,s with Nosler bullets the most energy with 30.06 with 180gr, at 500 yards 1050fps energy with 47" drop
The .270 with 150 at 500 yards, 1238fbs energy with 44" drop
My choice would would be the .280 Rem which I have used with great results
.280 with 150gr at 500 yards ,1279 fbs energy, with a 42" drop
But all said we are only spliting hairs they all would make a fine hunting gun.
http://www.federalcartridge.com/ballistics/Ammo_Search.aspx?act=choose&firearm=1&s1=1
 
Either cartridge will work well for you and both are suitable for the bulk of North American game. My personal preference is for the .30/06, but I've owned and shot both the .270 and .30/06, and there isn't much difference between them. I agree with the post that recommends premium bullets for the .270, but then I think a premium should be used whenever impact velocity on a big game animal exceeds 2500 fps.
 
I am another who does not follow the "energy dumb" theory. The actual energy is not all that great. We do after all receive as much energy at the butt as goes out of the muzzle.
The only criteria are that there be enough energy to drive the bullet into the vitals and expand. It takes energy to deform the bullet's original shape. There is a need for the bullet to have sufficient expansion once it arrives so that it will destroy a greater amount of tissue . This will cause the damage which leads to the animals death. If one shoots the target at a place other than the vitals , no amount of energy will lead to an acceptably quick kill whether or not the bullet exits.

Both the .270 and 30-06 have enough power to accomplish this when the heart /lungs are hit. In a few cases driving the bullet to the vitals may mean shooting through more muscle and bone but on a reasonable angle it is certainly something they can do.

I use a 30-06 myself but friends find a .270 work for them.
 
Both can kill Moose and Deer 100%

Take the prettier rifle that handles better. Consider also recoil. If sensitive you may want to look at 6.5x55 or 7x57. Confidence in your rifle kills, not the bullet!
 
They'll both work just fine. all comes down to shot placement. I picked up a 30-06 instead of the 270 (even though my whole family swears by 270). Made my choice because I dont reload - yet- and 30-06 has factory weights from 55gr to 220 gr. 270 is pretty much limited from 100gr to 150 gr. I use 150's on deer, 180's on moose/ elk. Works just fine- i like a heavier bullet, little bit more power never hurt.
As far as rifles go, good economical start while still pretty accurate- Remington SPS- i got the detachable mag (army roots i guess) and threw a leupold rifleman 3-9 scope on it, entire setup plus a couple hundred rounds was just over 1K.

Hope this helps
 
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