Which rifle in 257 Why mag around $1000 used

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Im looking at getting a 257 Wby mag but I dont want to spend much over $1300 (gun without scope) and am happy to spend a lot less. Would you go for a used Weatherby Mark V or a REMINGTON 700 CDL with a FLUTED barrel. Are there some others I should consider. It will be used for hunting. I do want good quality (eg -a level up from the Weatherby Vanguard) but I really dont need to go top of the line, especially when its not going to be used all the time.
 
Quality wise, I don't consider either the 700 CDL,or the Mark V to be a step up from the Vanguard. With your budget, I would just go with a Vanguard.
 
Quality wise, I don't consider either the 700 CDL,or the Mark V to be a step up from the Vanguard. With your budget, I would just go with a Vanguard.

Hi Stubblejumper
Just curious - Why dont you consider the Remington 700 CDL or Weatherby Mark V a step up from the Vanguard ( or are you referring to the Vanguard II DOA)? Are you referring to accuracy? My understanding was the MArk V was much better and Chuck Hawkes had given the Remington 700 fairly good reviews
 
Hi Stubblejumper
Just curious - Why dont you consider the Remington 700 CDL or Weatherby Mark V a step up from the Vanguard ( or are you referring to the Vanguard II DOA)? Are you referring to accuracy? My understanding was the MArk V was much better and Chuck Hawkes had given the Remington 700 fairly good reviews

The Mark V is much more expensive, but how is it much better?The Vanguard is a solid design that tends to be quite accurate. Having owned both Howa built guns Vanguard/S&W 1500, as well as two Mark Vs, the Vanguard/S&W, were more accurate, and just as reliable. Why do you suppose that the new Vanguards come with a better accuracy guarantee than the Mark Vs? The only weakness with the Vanguard is the trigger, and for around $125, you can easily fix that.
 
It looks like the last of the old style Vanguards must have got the trigger issues worked out. I've had 8 of them go through the house in the last few weeks and there wasn't a trigger in the bunch that I wouldn't hunt with.(Mind you, I checked every one of them before they left the store) It wasn't like that a couple of years ago.

There are several things that I like about the Vanguard action more than the Remington, but Remingtons have been real good to a lot of people for a long time. I just swapped one in .257 to a CGNer who needed it more than I did. Its a shooter.:D


You can get a Mark V Synthetic from WSS for about $1100, so a Mark V is still in your price range if you want one.
 
Hi Stubblejumper
Just curious - Why dont you consider the Remington 700 CDL or Weatherby Mark V a step up from the Vanguard ( or are you referring to the Vanguard II DOA)? Are you referring to accuracy? My understanding was the MArk V was much better and Chuck Hawkes had given the Remington 700 fairly good reviews

I believe that the Mark V will be of better quality and just as important, the Mark V will shoot faster with the 26 inch barrel compared to the Vanguard 24 inch barrel. Quality of Remington has gone south during the past few years and I personally wouldn't chance a Remington these days.
 
I believe that the Mark V will be of better quality and just as important, the Mark V will shoot faster with the 26 inch barrel compared to the Vanguard 24 inch barrel. Quality of Remington has gone south during the past few years and I personally wouldn't chance a Remington these days.

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If you can't find the difference in quality between a Vanguard and a Mark V, you're not looking very hard. I own 2 Vanguards and 3 Mark V's and like them all, but, the Vanguards are not close to the same class as a Mark V in my opinion. My 300 Wby Mark V will outshoot any rifle I've ever owned, I could care less about what they guarantee.

If you want to get everything that the 257 Wby Mag was designed to give you, find a used Mark V synthetic with a 26" barrel and you won't look back. If you just want to try one and rifles don't stay in your safe very long go for a Vanguard, it won't cost you near as much. Just my 2 cents.

Craig
 
You could buy a Vanguard, good scope and rings and a couple boxes of factory ammo and still have some change left over or you could find a slightly used Wbee Mrk.V in .257Wby and dish out some cash for scope and rings.
The difference between a 90deg bolt throw and a 59 degree bolt throw is night and day, but only you will know if the gun fits you and your wallet will open wide enough to drop the cash.
Seriously though, either one will do you well.
Tight Groups,
Rob
 
Is there that much of a speed difference between the Vanguard 24 inch barrel vs the Mark V 26 inch barrel? What about getting a Vanguard adn putting in something like an 26 inch fluted ER Shaw barrel? or am I just throwing good money away without much improvement. Again Im not using this for shooting competitions but for hunting, but I do understand that once you get out to 400 + yards those small differences can make a big difference
 
I probably should have said a Vanguard 2 vs the Mark V since I know they usually are not under $1300

ditto on the new Vanguard S2. $650 or so for the rifle. Can't go wrong if that's the caliber of choice. That being said, there is a Vanguard with a Leopold VII scope and a box of shells for $850 on the EE right now.

Is that about what you were looking for?
 
Yes I noticed that but I think I want to go with the Vanguard 2 or DOA with a scope that is more 3x14x50 since I want this gun for distance

ditto on the new Vanguard S2. $650 or so for the rifle. Can't go wrong if that's the caliber of choice. That being said, there is a Vanguard with a Leopold VII scope and a box of shells for $850 on the EE right now.

Is that about what you were looking for?
 
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