Which Scope Do You Recommend For A Rem 700p?

Falcon Menace - 4-14x44 or 4.5-18x56... I have both, and think they are a lot of scope for the money. Very nice and very well made. Glass is better than VX-II in my opinion...
 
Thoughts on leupold and night force? The shop has a crazy night force scope in stock and I didnt get the model numbers but its huge. But I do like the night force 1 piece base and rings which is what I think Im going to get. On leupold scopes what do the different letters stand for? They are like MR, CQ, LR, ER?
 
Honestly I dont really have one.... but Im thinking between 1000 - 1500. but if im spending 1500 whats another 500? But obviously im looking for bang for the buck. Right now after doing some looking around I kinda like the Leupold Mark 4 8.5-25x50mm LR/T M1 Illum. Reticle which i believe is about $1500 USD, or I can get the non illum for 1300 (which I think my shop as in stock). I hear alot of good things about leupold so thats why Im thinking about going with them.
 
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Compare that scope to a nightforce NXS 5.5-22 it's more money how much I can't tell you stateside. But a major plus is you get matching rectical to turrent mil/mil or moa/moa. See which one you like better.

Bang for your buck is with the Menace you get matching rec and turrents, plus save a grand for more practice ammo, or reloading components
 
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I have 3 Nightforce scopes now and I would not trade them for all the lead based paint in China. Phenomenal glass, bright optics with the 56mm Bell and outstanding clarity.

Whatever you are going to be using it for will determine which reticle and model you should look at.

Nightforce website has a great description of all the reticles and how they work.

If your getting into the Tactical/Sniper shooting then the NXS is right up your alley and they have quite a few reticles to choose from depending on your style and needs.
If you are looking at getting into F-Class or Target shooting then you should look at the BR (Bench Rest) models with the NP2-DD Reticle (Local Favorite in Reticle Choice).

NXS has 1/4min and Mil adjustments plus tactical turret knobs.
BR has 1/8 min adjustments and covered turrets.
 
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OK bare with me, so since this is my first long range rifle what is the benefit of having matching ret and turrets? I like the idea of having no covers on the adjustment knobs.... my hmr has a cheap scope on it and when Im out shooting gofers it sucks to have to take the covers off.... but then again I dont adjust it much after I had it sighted in at 100. Also when the scope is at max zoom the clarity its pretty bad so thats why Im asking you guys all these questions. I will be using this for target shooting mostly, maybe some gopher/praire dog shooting (a lil over kill i know), and maybe but I doubt it... hunting. I dont want to compete in anything I just want to shoot stuff from great distances.
 
Use gopher shooting as an example you take a shot and miss at three hundred yards. You can see where you hit and in the Reticle it's the second moa hashmark down so you shot two moa low, adjust your scope up two full moa and shoot again. Quick and easy.
With Second Focal Plane Scopes you have to be on the correct power setting to properly adjust off your reticle but with a first focal plane you can adjust off any power.

And I can agree with Cyanide I have a 5.5-22 NXS and a 4.5-14LR/T. The LR/T is going to be replaced with a ffp 3.5-15 NXS one day.
 
So I should just bite the bullet (lack of a better term) and buy a nightforce. OK well I dont know when im going to commit to buying another rifle since im still waiting for the paperwork for my Super shorty.... and I got a few other projects Im working on. But when everything is in stock I have a tough time saying NO. LOL
 
I've got a 6.5-20 MK4 on my PSS, and a new 8.5-25 on another rifle. Although I can't fault them, it's cheaper to do things once, so if you have a hunch that you will eventually end up with a Nightforce you may as well start there.

Being that you are south of the medicine line, you may want to do some more aggressive price searching. I bought a 8.5-25 in January for $1300 Canadian, and we're spotting you more than 20 cents on a dollar. On the otherhand, if a couple or 3 hundred dollars one way or the other doesn't matter to you, the Nightforce seems like natural.:D
 
OK so today I went back to the shop (bad idea) and I bought the 700p and nightforce base and rings. Im going to buy the scope off ebay, but now the question is do I want a mil dot rec or the MLR style rec? they look similar but what do you guys think?
 
For a comparison. The five scope brands I have bought and their uses:

1) NF. I have a 12-42x 56mm NXS on a 7mm Wildcat rig. 27" Pac-Nor polygonal rifled barrel with a #8 contour (very heavy target contour). So heavy doesn't matter since this isn't a hunting rifle ;). I also have a NF 5.5-22x 50mm for an Armalite AR-10T

2) Zeiss Conquest. I have 5 of these. 3 in the varmint Rapid Z reticle for .223/.204 rilfes and two in the 1000 yard reticle for .308. One is on a 5R milspec, the other a DPMS LR-308 (AR-10). Both the .308 rifles are sub .5 moa rifles. So obviously the scopes aren't holding them back ;)

3) Burris Fullfield II. It's on my Winchester 243WSSM model 70. Deer/coyote rifle. Excellent price/performance for a hunting scope. Very good glass. Compares to a VXIII only with less features.

4) Falcon Menace. I have 7 of these. I use them on .223 rifles, and .22 rimfires. best bang for the buck. Good glass, excellent reticle and very good features for the price.

You won't go wrong with the NF scopes. They are excellent. However you really do pay for it. That being said, the glass on my Zeiss Conquest scopes are as good as the NF. The only draw back with the Conquest is the lack of MOA adjustments. However with the Rapid Z reticles, you can compensate for this, and fast acquisition of targets at known distances is superior to having to dial in for each range. With the Night Force NP-R1 reticle (Which both mine are), you can use drop down marks for this as well. However the Rapid Z reticle really is tough to beat for that type of shooting. For benchrest/long range precision shooting, dialing it in is the more precise way to go.

Another contender that I plan on trying out one of these days are the Sightron S3 scopes. They've received excellent reviews and like the Falcon they are a best bang for the buck, only at a higher price point. The Falcon scopes compete against the Elite 4200, Leupold VXII etc. The S3 is meant to go up against NF, VXIII, etc.

Lots of things to think about. Ultimately what type of shooting are you looking at? What's your budget? Also does the scope suit the shooter and rifle?
 
I'd go with the nighforce. I recently bought one for my first ever long range rifle, a rem 700. I got the 3.5-15 56mm with mildot because it was the only one available at my local shop. If I had a choice, I would go with 5.5-22 power if you want to do 800+ yard range. Otherwise 3.5-15 is more than enough.
 
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