Which shotgun design would you vote as the most "BASIC" design?

[avroe]

Out of curiosity, I ask the following question:

Which shotgun design would you vote as the most "BASIC" design?

By the most "BASIC" design I mean a combination of;

- the fewest overall number of parts
- the simple nature of all of the parts
- the fewest things that could go wrong due partially to the above two items
- ease of assembly and mass manufacture

...I do ask however that we stick to what we would consider a modern day "shotgun". Something that shoots 12 Gauge etc..


Curious to see where this discussion goes...

 

[Wrong Way]

H&R break action single (or any of the variants, including predecessors such as the cooey)

Barrel
Stock
Receiver and firing pin
Hammer and spring
Trigger and spring.
Break bar and spring.

And the trigger is pretty much optional when s**t breaks...just pull back the hammer and let 'er go

Doesn't get much more basic than that.

 

[i-owe-so-off-to-work-i-go]

H&R break action single (or any of the variants, including predecessors such as the cooey)

Barrel
Stock
Receiver and firing pin
Hammer and spring
Trigger and spring.
Break bar and spring.

And the trigger is pretty much optional when s**t breaks...just pull back the hammer and let 'er go

Doesn't get much more basic than that.

What would a ballpark price be on something like this?

 

[skoal]

What would a ballpark price be on something like this?

Ive seen a few oldies on the ee for around $50-$120ish I just picked up a nice cooey for $100 not to long ago

 

[brybenn]

I think the old muzzleloading shotguns would be of a more basic design. A pipe with powder wad and shot and an ignition source. However I agree that the single shot break actions are more simplistic of all modern day guns but front stuffers are still made

 

[blasted_saber]

What would a ballpark price be on something like this?

You should be able to find a quality, made in Canada Cooey single shot at any gun show in Canada for 100-150.

 

[Lodi]

The Richardson Industries "Guerrilla Gun", made in the Philippines.

 

[Boomer74]

The Richardson Industries "Guerrilla Gun", made in the Philippines.

That's a nifty lil' thing...

 

[i-owe-so-off-to-work-i-go]

You should be able to find a quality, made in Canada Cooey single shot at any gun show in Canada for 100-150.

Thanks, I was thinking that it would be good for my 11 year old grandson to learn on. I have a Browning Silver and it might be too distracting while learning the basics, operating a semi auto. Or do you think I'm underestimating an 11year old?

 

[unstableryan]

Give him one shell at a time and the gas operated action will kick a lot less than the cooey single shots. Some single shots are brutal in the recoil because they are so light, some from stock design.

 

[Lodi]

That's a nifty lil' thing...

I figured that fit the OP's criteria; modern, 4 parts, easy to make and in 12ga.

 

[unstableryan]

Went shooting with an 8 year old that's favourite gun is a 45-70 guide gun yesterday and he just loves it, but not all kids can do that. I can post a video if I need to haha

 

[blasted_saber]

Thanks, I was thinking that it would be good for my 11 year old grandson to learn on. I have a Browning Silver and it might be too distracting while learning the basics, operating a semi auto. Or do you think I'm underestimating an 11year old?

Give him one shell at a time and the gas operated action will kick a lot less than the cooey single shots. Some single shots are brutal in the recoil because they are so light, some from stock design.

A .410 would be fine for learning the basics.

 

[porterhouse]

A .410 would be fine for learning the basics.

when learning a .410 could be discouraging. Hitting the target puts a big smile on their faces and makes them want to continue. I'd say a single shot 20 gauge would be a better choice. YMMV

 

[blasted_saber]

when learning a .410 could be discouraging. Hitting the target puts a big smile on their faces and makes them want to continue. I'd say a single shot 20 gauge would be a better choice. YMMV

Could be. Ive started out new shooters on both. Had them hitting hand thrown clays pretty easily on both as well. .410 cooeys are lighter, so that may be a consideration for an 11 y/o dependent on the kids size. Recoil is negligible.

 

[regulate34]

H&R pardner single. everything is exposed. the only thing that can break is the transfer bar. in a pinch put a pebble in its place. shell stuck. drop a rock down the barrel. it would be my survival shotgun for sure. always can make it go "boom"

 

[dilly]

I like single shot 410 or 20 ga guns with exposed hammers. You can visually see if the kid is safe or ready to shoot. Good learning guns.

 

[blasted_saber]

H&R pardner single. everything is exposed. the only thing that can break is the transfer bar. in a pinch put a pebble in its place. shell stuck. drop a rock down the barrel. it would be my survival shotgun for sure. always can make it go "boom"

I think I'd try a stick before dropping a rock down the barrel

 

[a j cave]

Get a PAST shooting pad for the kid to wear. A 20 or 28 single shot with light loads would be a good way to go. Will need a youth gun with a shorter stock.