which sould i get 204,223,243,or 308 for target.

G

gravedigger

Regular
EE Expired
Rating - 100%
311   0   0
Location
you don't want to know
HI guy's, which is the most acurate out of these rounds 204,223,243,308,and i would like a target rifle savage or rem700, what are your experiences guy's let me know (it would be for target long distance&varmint hunting).
 
I have a Rem700p in 223 very happy with it but it is limited in its range compared to the bigger calibers like the .308 or 7mm. I also have a SIG STR 970 in .308 and I am very happy with this as well. 223 will be cheaper to shoot than the 308 and will have less recoil. In the end it all depends on how far you want to be able to shoot consistently. I almost bought the savage but the tupperware stock scared me away.
 
I suppose that it depends on what you consider to be long distance target shooting... Rifles in these calibers can be suberbly accurate. .308 may be out of the question for varmint hunting depending on where you live. .223 can be used for long range target shooting as mentionned above. So have .243 and .308. The .204 would likely be a poor choice for lang range target, but along with the .223 and .243 is effective for varmints.
 
Having used these rounds , the 223 wins , fun to load with 52/53 grain match bullets, save a bunch on quality bullets and powder. Now you may not get the accuracy and energy of the .308 at the greater distances , but so what , the accuracy will be excellent at modest ranges , and could be your favourite varmint rig and tgt gun. Twist will be a factor if you do a build or prefer a certain weight bullet, ie twist will be less for the light stuff and more with the heavy , lets say or 60 + gr bullets.
Frank
 
Have a lot of experience with both .223 and .308. In a good rifle with proper loads, .223 is better than most expect out to about 500m; generally not quite as good as .308 in windy conditions. .308 is great to 900m with the proper bullet. As already noted, the .223 is considerably cheaper to shoot and has a lot less recoil, although in a heavy (varmint or target) barrel you won't mind the .308 recoil. Best solution,of course (and I can hear all of you crazy CGNs agreeing with me) is to get both .223 and .308. In the meantime, your choice depends mainly on what will be your target, distance, shooting conditions,etc. Best all round choice, because it is very accurate at all ranges from 100m to 900m is the .308.
I would be willing to advise on bullets to use for .223 &.308 if you will be handloading. Suggest you PM me.
 
Knock .204 and .243 off that list, if you're strictly target shooting. For long range varmint I'd say a .220 Swift or a .22-250.
.223: Speedy, light recoil, cheap plinking ammo.
.308: Has about half the wind drift of a .223 at 500 yards, better for long range, speedy with the right load and barrel length, heavier but perfectly manageable recoil, not as cheap plinking ammo.

-Rohann
 
Hey Guys
I'm new to the site,
I went with a Tikka T3 Tactical in a 223 and can get 1" groups at 300 meters using the 69gr HPBT.
I'm fairly new to the shooting scene, but I was very impressed with what a bipod could do and a decent scope and of course the rifle.

What is the expected accuracy of groups from 200 to 1000 meters for lets say a 223, 308, 300 win mag and a 338?
Have a good one
Bigwhite
 
Rohann said:
Knock .204 and .243 off that list, if you're strictly target shooting. For long range varmint I'd say a .220 Swift or a .22-250.
.223: Speedy, light recoil, cheap plinking ammo.
.308: Has about half the wind drift of a .223 at 500 yards, better for long range, speedy with the right load and barrel length, heavier but perfectly manageable recoil, not as cheap plinking ammo.

-Rohann
Click to expand...
BC is a strange thing

Quikload program says that a .223 60 grain Berger VLD @2982 has about 86 "
drift in a 10MPH wind @1,000 yards
A 308 with a Scenar @ the same velocity and range has about 83.4"

Cat
 
Between the 223 and 308, I would recommend the 223. With present bullets, ballistics are essentially the same but recoil and cost are way lower in the 223. If you are going to build one and like the 22cal, a 22/250 in a fast twist would be big fun for varmint and plinking.

For LR balls to the wall performance, the 243 is tops on your list. Barrel life is much shorter but LR ballistics are head and shoulders over these others.

In a factory rifle, you will be limited to 87gr Vmax and 95gr SST's. If you build a custom barrel, then go 6BR or its many variants with a fast twist for 105/107gr match bullets. With a 28" barrel, close to 3000fps is achievable in a properly set up rifle.

That is huge long range performance.

You haven't mentioned the 6.5 or 7mm. These offer better performance but usually in larger cases, or at least modified 308's size ones.

Jerry
 
I'd scratch the 204 ruger off that list if you plan to shoot alot. Bullets bearing a 4100 fps muzzle velocity will wear a barrel quite fast...
 
The expected accuracy is a combination of the ammo, the gun and the shooter. All those calibres and many others could perform to the same high standard and given the same shooter and guns and ammo of the same build quality it all comes down to the ballistic coefficient of the projectile.
A heavy 223 (80g), or 6mm (107g) or mid weight 30 (155-168g) or 270 (135g) will all perform the same at the same speed because they all have BC around .450. The 30 and 338 have better BC bullets available that will buck more wind, but the king of the hill is still the 6.5 with BC up to .620, that's 50% better. Try looking at 6.5Swede or 260 or 6.5/284 or 6.5/06.......

You should better those 69's by trying 75 Amax.... check the BC's!

I would be looking for minute of angle at all ranges out to 1,000, ie the same inherent accuracy regardless of distance. Just depends how well I read the wind then.
 
I went with 223 AND 308, same rifle, the Savage 12FV, same scope, bases and rings...

The only way I can tell them apart at a glance is by the scope shade I left on the 223...

Both shoot around 1/2 an inch at 100...

Cheers
Jay
 
Well, at least everyone is in agreement. :D
Personally, I went with the .223 because I could afford to shoot it more and practice on the trigger is what really counts.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom