Which striker fired pistol would you reccommend?
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Stevo is right. Walther P99; related small size, not a cheap gun, good fit and finish, some like it but many hate it. Not quite common seen at those IPSC game. CZ 100B; I am not quite sure any dealer carry this gun because I think it is prohabited. Steyr is a very good gun but many owner have feeding problem. To make your day easlier, get a Glock or M&P.
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since I finally got to take my new m&p9 out today (and the k100) I'd recommend staying away from the m&p9 still
I shot 20 rounds with each gun at 5, 7, 10, 15, and 20 meters.
the k100 had 3 inch groupings all the way out to 20 meters for me (with a stray going out to a max of 5 inches on a couple shots out past the 10M mark)
the m&p at 5m and 7m was all over the place, at 6-7inch grouping at 10M it was 4" groupings, 15m it was at 5", and 20m it was all over the place again.
I alternated 20 rounds in each gun, with a new target every 10 rounds. with the following method.... 10 rounds of 115grain new target, and 10 rounds of 124grain new target. I did that to make the comparison between the two fair.
Im not sure if it makes a difference but the strike mark on the spent shells from the m&p9 didnt have a nice round strike, it was more teardrop shaped... only thing I really noticed was how little recoil the MP9 had
I really gotta write up that review/comparison, and stop doing mini's in random threads like this. sorry about that
I shot 20 rounds with each gun at 5, 7, 10, 15, and 20 meters.
the k100 had 3 inch groupings all the way out to 20 meters for me (with a stray going out to a max of 5 inches on a couple shots out past the 10M mark)
the m&p at 5m and 7m was all over the place, at 6-7inch grouping at 10M it was 4" groupings, 15m it was at 5", and 20m it was all over the place again.
I alternated 20 rounds in each gun, with a new target every 10 rounds. with the following method.... 10 rounds of 115grain new target, and 10 rounds of 124grain new target. I did that to make the comparison between the two fair.
Im not sure if it makes a difference but the strike mark on the spent shells from the m&p9 didnt have a nice round strike, it was more teardrop shaped... only thing I really noticed was how little recoil the MP9 had
I really gotta write up that review/comparison, and stop doing mini's in random threads like this. sorry about that
The P99 has a reputation of being a little fragile for a gun with little to no Service or parts supply, the Steyr has been accused of issues with feeding. The Glock is a long proven durable pistol but isn't for everyone, particularly those with small hands or short fingers. The M&P has a lot of the features of the Glock, along with the interchangeable backstraps of the P99. The only thing that you should be aware of with the Glock is that it is widely considered unsafe to shoot lead bullets from the factory barrel. Aftermarket barrels are available at relatively low cost for the Glock that are safe for lead.
since I finally got to take my new m&p9 out today (and the k100) I'd recommend staying away from the m&p9 still
I shot 20 rounds with each gun at 5, 7, 10, 15, and 20 meters.
the k100 had 3 inch groupings all the way out to 20 meters for me (with a stray going out to a max of 5 inches on a couple shots out past the 10M mark)
the m&p at 5m and 7m was all over the place, at 6-7inch grouping at 10M it was 4" groupings, 15m it was at 5", and 20m it was all over the place again.
I alternated 20 rounds in each gun, with a new target every 10 rounds. with the following method.... 10 rounds of 115grain new target, and 10 rounds of 124grain new target. I did that to make the comparison between the two fair.
Im not sure if it makes a difference but the strike mark on the spent shells from the m&p9 didnt have a nice round strike, it was more teardrop shaped... only thing I really noticed was how little recoil the MP9 had
I really gotta write up that review/comparison, and stop doing mini's in random threads like this. sorry about that
Wierd, have you tried a smaller backstrap? - My M&P would put 2 rounds on top of each other while the brass was still in the air. Mind you the trigger does take a thousand or so rounds to smooth out.(the teardrop striker (firing pin) mark is normal for a lot of nines - the divott under the firing pin on the breach face of the M&P is normal too) Just curious, how long have you been shooting, not being snotty but if your last names Faulconbridge and all you can get is three inches it's bad (and it's the gun), if you're me and you get three inches, you're not totally sucking yet (!) - so it can be hard to guage
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I use the mid sized one out of the three, the big one is too thick for my hand, but the small one is too narrow for my hand. mid sized one makes it feel the same as the K100's grip. I'll try and remember to take the other two with me next time I go out to shoot though, and see if it makes a difference for me.
oh and, that was the first 100 rounds I've put through each of the guns, so I do expect things to get better for each once broken in.... I was just really surpised at the accuracy difference between the two of them, since they were both virgins
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hatman1793
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Buy a Glock17. They offer unbeatable value. The M&P is a very close second. Both good guns.
Buy a Glock17. They offer unbeatable value. The M&P is a very close second. Both good guns.
Personally, I shoot the G17 much better than the M&P. The "fit your hand" thing is bogus, IMO. Unless you have freakishly small hands, anyone can shoot a 9mm Glock. It may just take some time to get used to it. TR had an 11 yr old girl shoot Fighting Pistol in NV with a G19.
On an M&P note, we had a number of FTE's on an M&P 9mm tonight. Seems to be very sensitive to dirt in the extractor. The pistol had maybe 300 rounds through it an wasn't really dirty at all. I clean my G17 every 3k, whether it needs it or not.
On an M&P note, we had a number of FTE's on an M&P 9mm tonight. Seems to be very sensitive to dirt in the extractor. The pistol had maybe 300 rounds through it an wasn't really dirty at all. I clean my G17 every 3k, whether it needs it or not.
My 0.2 cents; NONE. After experiencing misfires with military surplus ammo (almost 50%), I do not want to see damn thing, never mind by one. Old WWII clunkers fired that same ammo without any hiccup. If I am in competition, I will always have on back of my mind those misfires. As for LEO-s, can you imagine situation of a pistol sitting for months in holster, and dust and oil degradation creating some sort of gunk? Put on top of that cold weather, and our officer could be in a BIG trouble. If I am a boss in any LEO, I would think twice before selecting striker equipped pistols. If I must choose some sort of pistol that will fire without cocking, I will go for one of those DAO that has conventional hammer but without hammer spur. If somebody answers that pistol should be cleaned and lubricated regularly, and it will always work if everything is done properly, well, tell me about that; just look what is going on with commercial plane maintenance these days. American Airlines is canceling about thousand flights every day because of insufficient maintenance.
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Just because a pistol won't shoot surplus ammo of dubious age and origin doesn't mean it's a flawed design. I've got about 8-10k through my G17 in one year. It's been stripped once, and wiped out two or three times. It has never, not once, had a malfunction that I did not intentionally induce or that was related to the ammo. Try to run a 1911 that much and have it work.
You need a hell of a lot more maintenance with a traditional steel SA or SA/DA pistol. If the user isn't maintaining his pistol, like in your example, it's the users problem, not the gun's, when it fails. Your example applies to all pistols.
Right on, I always knew I was a freak! 
Seriously, without migrating my hand around the side of the pistol I can't get my finger on the trigger properly (pad of finger only) I can just about reach the tip of my finger to the middle of the trigger. I can shoot " H grip " but its not optimum.
Seriously, without migrating my hand around the side of the pistol I can't get my finger on the trigger properly (pad of finger only) I can just about reach the tip of my finger to the middle of the trigger. I can shoot " H grip " but its not optimum.WOW...
Your poor grasp on the english language speaks volumes about your experience and knowledge related to firearms. After decoding your post I must agree with Stevo. Your examples are rather weak when it comes to substance. Your creative examples serve to illustrate both your lack of knowledge and severe incompetence on behalf the shooter/officer(s) you describe. Blaming the gear for problems related to either the ammo or the operator serves no purpose and does nothing to solve the problem. Likewise, believing that replacing or changing the gear will solve the problem(s) only strengthens ones opinion on the author and/or shooter.
TDC
The truth is I am not the best in English (thanks for warning me, I made few corrections, BTW, I think you should write “English“, not “english”) but I just can’t see how somebody’s language skills, first aid or cooking skills could be used as indication how much somebody knows about firearms and shooting, farming or mining. PLEASE, be serious and use better arguments. As for actual facts, well, this is what happened and I am glad it did because I was thinking about 10 mm or 45 Glock. I never owned striker equipped pistol, and after that experience, I newer will. Also, as far as I know, almost all pistols used by USA and other larger armies are with exposed hammer. The one and only reason I wrote noted post is to inform others so they wouldn’t get in same situation as I did AFTER making purchase. You like striker equipped pistols, get dozen, I have no problem with that. Your experience is different and you want to express it, fine again, this is free country. Just ignore those crappy 1911, S&W 1006 or S&W 4506-1 pistols, I might be looking for one or two. BTW, can anybody let us know how to fix chipped plastic frame, my friend is looking for advice (Update, I just found this site: h ttp://www.cpmi-usa.com/accmisc.htm)
P.S. Noted pistol worked fine with commercial ammo, but you can have it. The one I am going to get should fire all ammo, including old surplus ammo.
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