Which would you use (.223 bullet selection for wolf)?

I would assume that anything that would be considered sufficient for a human would work well on a wolf with proper shot placement. IE, they are not mythically impervious to anything short of a magnum caliber. As with any animal, shot placement is essential with a suitable caliber.
 
for wolf., #### man use a .308
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I wouldn't consider the largest wolf ever shot to be representational of what he might see in eastern Canada...

Wolves are longer and taller than coyotes. Think about the required bullet penetration on a wolf compared to a coyote- at most you have to penetrate an extra 1" of hide and ribcage to get into the vitals....
 
Just to put some math to what everybody has already intuitively figured out regarding penetration: assuming that wolves and coyotes are of similar proportions and density, as an object increases in mass linearly, it must increase in each of it's 3 dimensions as the cubic root of the mass-proportion.

So a wolf that's 3 times the weight of similarly proportioned coyote will be only 3^(1/3) = 1.44 times the thickness.

So yes, of course it's thicker, but penetration isn't quite the issue that it's weight-proportion would suggest.
 
Just to put some math to what everybody has already intuitively figured out regarding penetration: assuming that wolves and coyotes are of similar proportions and density, as an object increases in mass linearly, it must increase in each of it's 3 dimensions as the cubic root of the mass-proportion.

So a wolf that's 3 times the weight of similarly proportioned coyote will be only 3^(1/3) = 1.44 times the thickness.

So yes, of course it's thicker, but penetration isn't quite the issue that it's weight-proportion would suggest.

Wolves are to coyotes what elk are to whitetail.

Mathematical equations matter s**t when it comes to the real thing.
They are far tougher than a coyote(which are tough already) and are considered big game in most places where it is legal to hunt them.

There are better calibers than a 223, so why not use them?
 
I've shot wolves with different cartridges. 300 mag. 257 wby. 25-06. 22 mag. and 22-250. The 22-250 with a 55 gr ballistic tip kills them like lightning when you hit them well. I've also hit them poorly with a 300 mag. and never seen them again. They can be tough when shot in the guts.
 
Wolves are to coyotes what elk are to whitetail.

Mathematical equations matter s**t when it comes to the real thing.
They are far tougher than a coyote(which are tough already) and are considered big game in most places where it is legal to hunt them.

There are better calibers than a 223, so why not use them?

Let me just quote the OP:

"I should mention these are Eastern Wolves, which rarely top 90 lbs, more often they are the size of a large yote "

'Nuff said.
 
I never meant to imply that I actually know anything about killing wolves. Just thought I'd throw some numbers out there for numbers sake.

I've never shot a wolf, and my only coyote fell to a 7 rem mag. Took 3 shots. Yeah, my marksmanships improved a bit since then :)
 
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