As a matter of fact, the Automag was made/ relaunched by 5 firms. None succeeded in making it a commercial success. To achieve the latter, someone would have to relaunch the pattern who could leverage low production cost and economies of scale. It would have to be a bigger player with solid capital, solid distribution channels and good marketing and business acumen. That wasn't present in the past 5 launches/ / re-launchs. How about some one in Turkey?
Who could build a Bren Ten clone?
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As a matter of fact, the Automag was made/ relaunched by 5 firms. None succeeded in making it a commercial success. To achieve the latter, someone would have to relaunch the pattern who could leverage low production cost and economies of scale. It would have to be a bigger player with solid capital, solid distribution channels and good marketing and business acumen. That wasn't present in the past 5 launches/ / re-launchs. How about some one in Turkey?
EAA makes several Witness models in 10mm, including both steel and polymer frame guns. Unless you are going for the exact look and features of the Bren10, I would say that a CZ75 clone in 10mm is a pretty good substitute. Quite a decent price point too.
I had an all-steel Witness 10mm for a while...nice gun, but I found I preferred to shoot my P220 10mm, and so sold it off to a very happy GunNut...
I had an all-steel Witness 10mm for a while...nice gun, but I found I preferred to shoot my P220 10mm, and so sold it off to a very happy GunNut...
captainmike
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me too will buy one in a heartbeat
Donny Fenn1
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The Bren Ten was a ground breaking gun - and the first commercial chambering of the 10mm auto cartridge.
One would have thought that leveraging the brilliance of the Cz75 pattern, incorporating Jeff Cooper's ideas for design improvement and having Sonny Crockett's star power behind it would guarantee its success.
However, the fairly obscure company behind the gun Dornaus & Dixo ("D&D") over-promised. When it finally delivered to customers - who had pre-paid and had waited too long - many (most?) guns shipped with no magazines.
This came-about since D&D goofed-up by designing the gun with a mag that was supposed to feed both 45 ACP and 10mm. The original mags didn't work and the maker took too WAY long to get a dedicated 10mm mag out to customers.
This great gun deserved better - and I'm betting that someone could pick up where D&D left off... but who? I'll throw these three possibilities out there:
Norinco - who has brought back even more obscure guns, including clones of the TokEqypt and heck even the FEG P9R. I believe that Norinco has never offered a 10mm gun. Maybe it is time.
Turkish Pistol makers - these guys seem to have taken certain parts of the commercial pistol market by storm; including producing a stainless copy of the HP
Tanfoglio - who already is selling improved Cz75 pattern guns and even has 10mm guns with polymer and steel frames - sold in small no.s
Why does the World need a Bren Ten redux gun? Why not just buy a Tanfoglio 10 banger? IMO, the latter lacks the features and the cache of the Bren Ten. And notably, unlike the Tanfoglio - or any Cz75 pattern gun - the Bren Ten gave you enough real estate to grab onto rack the slide - a BIG deal to me.
Your thoughts?
groundbreaking? yes
sales dud? also yes
and other than bear protection who really needs a Bren 10 when there are multiple other pistols and/or calibers that will do the same thing?
If it was to be re-introduced most of the interest would be for nostalgia reasons but even though it’s a dated design it’d be a worthwhile option for anyone considering an all-steel 10mm pistol. It’s got great rugged but adjustable sights, a very manageable grip size and trigger reach (especially compared with the CZ97B) and an excellent trigger pull.
