Who does Slide Milling, RMR cut ect.

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Im trying to get a list of companys in Canada who will Mill my Glock slides, and peoples experiences with these companys.

Are they pretty standard with milling work, example, depth of cut, pricing, quality of work, or are there some that are better than others?
Thanks
 
You need a whole list?

Blackbox in Alberta, Tacord in Ontario.

Had mine done at the latter - job well done, right price, quick turnaround.


Blackbox does fancier stuff and for more platforms. They offer all sorts of milling packages with new serrations, slide windows, etc etc. Tactical Ordnance strictly does optic cuts, and they don't quite do as many different types of guns.
 
I dont need a whole list really. But I'd like to talk to a few shops before jumping the gun, and finding out later I could have had other options built into it (I see now Black Box offers the Agency plate system for example). Where another shop may just offer 1 cut and wont allow for future changes if I decide on a different optic in the future. Its an ever evolving game and I dont want to be stuck with an obsolete platform down the road.
Just trying to do my research before I go and cut a slide or 3.
Thanks.
 
84B2 said:
... Its an ever evolving game and I dont want to be stuck with an obsolete platform down the road.....
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I see your point, I've been in the same boat. Ultimately though, things are much more established now than they were ten years ago. I think that realistically it's going to be at least 15-20 years before any of the common patterns could possibly be considered obsolete (probably much longer) - And honestly, they are quite likely to never become obsolete in your lifetime. Don't let analysis paralysis slow you down.

Personally, I'd proceed by picking a reputable shop and getting their advice on which pattern to follow based on their experience with your handgun. There's really not many options for shops doing this work in Canada, so it might be much simpler than it seems.

And as spoonfed says above: Worst case scenario, adapter plate or new slide. Not a huge deal.
 
I chose an RMR cut for mine. I decided the footprint will have longevity when Trijicon announced the RMR HD and the enclosed emitter RCR both still use the same pattern. Gotta be good for another 10 years I figure.

I've been thinking about getting my Staccato milled too, and in that case Blackbox is the only game in town. And they won't do a direct optic mount, they'll only cut it for the Dawson Precision system. In this case I believe Dawson will stick around as a company and continue making DPO plates for various footprints as they enter the market.
 
RMR vs DPP, the two most common options. I believe that it is already swaying towards the RMR. Most aftermarket slides ar cut for the RMR and companies that used to cut for the DPP are now offering "dual cut". Its like Keymod and Mlok, VHS and betamax.

Get the rmr cut. Black box does a great job.
 
I agree with getting an RMR cut. Even if something new comes out down the line, you'll very likely be able to find an RMR footprint adapter plate for it.
 
pirate604 said:
RMR vs DPP, the two most common options. I believe that it is already swaying towards the RMR. Most aftermarket slides ar cut for the RMR and companies that used to cut for the DPP are now offering "dual cut". Its like Keymod and Mlok, VHS and betamax.

Get the rmr cut. Black box does a great job.
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I own 6 different RMR's and I have 2 of them on pistols and the rest on SBR rifles, when I got my Staccato P DPO I decided to try the DPP because the slide is cut for DPP without using an adapter plate and therfore it sits the lowest possible. Its a good red dot, I like the bigger window but IMO the dot on the RMR's is cleaner to my eyes. So I am exited to get my hands on the new RMR HD and would even like to try a RCR eventually. I dont regret trying the DPP but I will most likely will go back to RMR and never buy another DPP
 
The crappy thing about the DPP is the thickness of the body. Im pretty sure the RMR with adapter plate will still sit lower on the Staccato than the Deltapoint mounted directly.
 
nintendohunter said:
The crappy thing about the DPP is the thickness of the body. Im pretty sure the RMR with adapter plate will still sit lower on the Staccato than the Deltapoint mounted directly.
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Possibly might equal out or be very similar but there is only a 0.17/4.32mm different in thickness and the adapter plate looks to be at least 4-5mm thick. There was also the issue that at the time there were no adapter plates in stock in Canada, I checked every Canadian store I could find that sold them. I had the DPP mount kit imported for me from Dawson Precision for $49 US plus exchange and tax, the RMR mount kit is $159.95 US, the Canadian dealer now has them in stock for $294.99 Canadian. Little steep but I will buy one to try the RMR HD or RCR when they are readily available in Canadian stores.

The bigger window on the DPP was nice, I just love my RMR's and Im more used to them. So I think the RMR HD will be a hit for me personally
 
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The RMR HD will sit past the breech face on a DPO milled Staccato P. I heard Trijicon specifically says this is a no-no, but I guess it depends on the individual gun too and how it ejects casings. I have a non DPO Staccato P and it does tend to kick rounds high and back.... could cause stovepipes. Something to consider.

Vulcan Machine (USA) offers direct milling options for Staccato slides. Blackbox wouldn't do anything other than DPO, so I'm holding off on that one. I hate that the Dawson RMR plate is $300. Nuts.
 
nintendohunter said:
The RMR HD will sit past the breech face on a DPO milled Staccato P. I heard Trijicon specifically says this is a no-no, but I guess it depends on the individual gun too and how it ejects casings. I have a non DPO Staccato P and it does tend to kick rounds high and back.... could cause stovepipes. Something to consider.

Vulcan Machine (USA) offers direct milling options for Staccato slides. Blackbox wouldn't do anything other than DPO, so I'm holding off on that one. I hate that the Dawson RMR plate is $300. Nuts.
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I am aware of that as the SRO sits about the same, but it is also funny that North Sylva the Canadian Trijicon distributor posted promotional pictures of a Staccato P with the RMR HD on it in the hands of a leo. There are also a lot of people I see running the SRO on Staccatp P's without any complaints even thou they say it shouldnt be ran on that pistol

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And if you go on Trijicon's own website they also have pictures of the RMR HD mounted on Staccato's, so it would be very strage if they told us not to use it on that pistol but then put up promotinal pictures of it being used on that pistol

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I wanted to get a different slide milled with blackbox but they would only do it with a full re coating of the slide. Being a brand new pistol with the original finish wich IMO is better then cerakote, I didnt want to trade off the OEM PVD coating for cerakote. So I just ended up finding an aftermarket slide for it with a RMR cut. I will hold off till I can find a company that offers it like many do in the USA, where they cut your slide and just recoat the bare surface where they milled the optic cut.
 
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Ahh interesting, I guess it doesn't matter all that much and they're just covering their butts for liability. In that big photo it looks like it covers much more than the second photo. Must be the angle.

TacOrd will mill slides without forcing refinishing on you. He just won't do 2011s, unfortunately. Supposedly not worth the effort of getting the tooling/software set up if there isn't much demand on the customer side.
 
nintendohunter said:
Ahh interesting, I guess it doesn't matter all that much and they're just covering their butts for liability. In that big photo it looks like it covers much more than the second photo. Must be the angle.

TacOrd will mill slides without forcing refinishing on you. He just won't do 2011s, unfortunately. Supposedly not worth the effort of getting the tooling/software set up if there isn't much demand on the customer side.
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I think one of the reasons that Black Box will only do the DPO cut to use an adapter to RMR is because of the slimness of the Staccato slides. There is not enough width to have recoil lugs without a plate to taper out wider for the RMR cut. You can see in the bottom picture I posted, the slide width is thinner then the RMR plate, and if you look at the RMR plate the lugs are on the very outer edge of the plate. The RMR cut without a plate would have the RMR overhang on the sides and have no room for the recoil lugs. Even the mounting screws for the RMR would be very close to the edge of the slide
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Thanks I'll have to send Tacord a message, I have 2 Glock slides I'd consider milling for RMR optic cuts without re coating
 
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Vulcan Machine will direct-mill Staccato slides, so its definitely possible. Judging by photos it looks like they mill past most of the rounded cross-section of the slide. I'm guessing Blackbox doesn't have enough demand to tinker with this sort machining - its easier to just do what the factory does.

If I wasn't worried about cross-border shipping my unobtanium gun I'd send it to these guys tomorrow.

 
nintendohunter said:
Vulcan Machine will direct-mill Staccato slides, so its definitely possible. Judging by photos it looks like they mill past most of the rounded cross-section of the slide. I'm guessing Blackbox doesn't have enough demand to tinker with this sort machining - its easier to just do what the factory does.

If I wasn't worried about cross-border shipping my unobtanium gun I'd send it to these guys tomorrow.

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FYI I believe that is the smaller RMR CC (compact) not a regular size RMR, becasuse if you go on thier website they do not offer a regular size RMR cut without adapter plate on a Staccato's. They only offer RMR CC cut for that, if you want a RMR they offer a Staccato 2011 Optics Package (RMR Footprint Only) $350.00 and just like Dawson/Staccato it uses an adapter plate

The standard RMR/SRO base is wider then the slide no matter where you move it or how deep you go
They do offer a few other optic cuts that can be done without adapter plate, but RMR specifically is a no
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