I don't own a magnum because I Deer hunt in southeastern Ontario and my .300 savage is more than enough. I have hunted Moose up northern Ontario with a 7mm Rem Mag and and would probably buy a Mag if that was a yearly thing. If I was stuck I wouldn't hesitate shooting at a moose with my .300 savage up to 150 yards maybe 200 if the conditions were right.
Who doesn't own a magnum & why?
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Nope, no magnums, but Ive been there and wore that t-shirt for a while, my whelen chucks a 250 grainer at roughly the same speed a 338 win mag does (2650) but it sure doesnt beat me up the way my old magnum did and it doesnt gobble up powder or eat up cases the same way either. I get 2850 fps out of my finbear in 06 pushing a 180 nosler partition and the 7X57 chucks out the old 139 gr hornadys at almost 3000 when pushed by H-414. These cartridges have been killing game quite effectively for a hundred years in some cases and I guess its good enough for me. If I were to aquire a magnum it would be the 375 H&H as it suits my reasoning. 
Like some of the guys have said, I think the term "Magnum" can be confusing. For example, anybody who thinks a 270 Winchester, which has been around for over 80 years now, isn't a magnum should think again.
I tend to break "magnums" into two categories. Trajectory magnums and power magnums. As far as trajectory magnums go, it takes a hell of a fast cartridge to shoot meaningfully flatter than a 270 Win. Something on the order of a 270 or 300 Wby starts to get there. The new short fats that are so popular this year? Forget it. Fun to talk about but no deer will ever know the difference.
And the power magnums? What hits meaningfully harder than a 30-06 or 35 Whelen? None of the magnums up thorough the 30's do, I got rid of a 300Wby as it didn't convince the animals to fall over any faster than a 270 or 284 Winchester did. I think it takes at least a 338 Win to start to get there. And personally I own a 358 Norma. In the words of a gunsmith friend of mine who built the Norma, if you're going to take a step up from 30 cal to make a bigger smack, take a step up. A 338 is half a step. The Norma is still relatively easy to shoot, and with a 250 grainer at 2800 shoots reasonably flat. Nice compromise.
I tend to break "magnums" into two categories. Trajectory magnums and power magnums. As far as trajectory magnums go, it takes a hell of a fast cartridge to shoot meaningfully flatter than a 270 Win. Something on the order of a 270 or 300 Wby starts to get there. The new short fats that are so popular this year? Forget it. Fun to talk about but no deer will ever know the difference.
And the power magnums? What hits meaningfully harder than a 30-06 or 35 Whelen? None of the magnums up thorough the 30's do, I got rid of a 300Wby as it didn't convince the animals to fall over any faster than a 270 or 284 Winchester did. I think it takes at least a 338 Win to start to get there. And personally I own a 358 Norma. In the words of a gunsmith friend of mine who built the Norma, if you're going to take a step up from 30 cal to make a bigger smack, take a step up. A 338 is half a step. The Norma is still relatively easy to shoot, and with a 250 grainer at 2800 shoots reasonably flat. Nice compromise.
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I, also think the term Magnum is not used the same way it was when they came out.... now, every new caliber use the term, 17hrm, wssm soon we will have the wssssssm
This said, I do own a magnum, a 7MMRemMag and love it . Not more then my other rifles , or calibers just love it for the kind of hunting I do with it. if I go bear hunting, I would use my 45-70gov which is not considered a magnum but kick the hell more then my "real Magnum".
PaulT
I, also think the term Magnum is not used the same way it was when they came out.... now, every new caliber use the term, 17hrm, wssm soon we will have the wssssssm
This said, I do own a magnum, a 7MMRemMag and love it
. Not more then my other rifles , or calibers just love it for the kind of hunting I do with it. if I go bear hunting, I would use my 45-70gov which is not considered a magnum but kick the hell more then my "real Magnum". PaulT
I've owned a number of magnums, although I currently own 3:
7RM because it is a great all around cartrdge, probbaly more versatile than the 30-06 with not any more felt recoil. One of the most populat cartridges in BC hunting, BTW.
300WSM- Because it's so damn cool. (I've had a 300 WM as well, not much difference in performance between the 2, the WSM maybe recoils a little less)
375 H&H- Liked it better than my 338 WM, and it puts bears down fast, so I dont' hav to chase them in to thick bush.
Most guys would be fine with a 270, 30-06 etc...But ther is no reason to NOT shoot a magnum if you can handle it well.
7RM because it is a great all around cartrdge, probbaly more versatile than the 30-06 with not any more felt recoil. One of the most populat cartridges in BC hunting, BTW.
300WSM- Because it's so damn cool.
(I've had a 300 WM as well, not much difference in performance between the 2, the WSM maybe recoils a little less)375 H&H- Liked it better than my 338 WM, and it puts bears down fast, so I dont' hav to chase them in to thick bush.
Most guys would be fine with a 270, 30-06 etc...But ther is no reason to NOT shoot a magnum if you can handle it well.
I have two and am actively trying to buy a third. I have/have agreed to sell a 7mm REm mag, which I don't think is really a magnum, marginally up in power form a 3006. I also have a 300 wsm, I think much bigger jump from 30-06 but still manageble. I am planning to buy a 338 Win Mag for bigger stuff, I am planning an Africa Trip and that will be the ticket.
I use the 300 WSM as an allround rifle, I use a 260 rem when only hunting whitetail, and will likely use the 338 when moose is the main quarry(although I know it isn't needed)
I use the 300 WSM as an allround rifle, I use a 260 rem when only hunting whitetail, and will likely use the 338 when moose is the main quarry(although I know it isn't needed)
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Other than my name-sake the only magnum I have is under the hood of my truck 5.2L.
I currently shoot and reload the following rifle calibers;
1) .223
2) .308 Winchester
3) .30-06
4) .38-55
5) .45-70
Question, now is there something in North America that I can't take down? Also to be fair I do have 2x .44 Magnum and 1x .357 Magnum Carbines for Cowboy Action shooting.
1) .223
2) .308 Winchester
3) .30-06
4) .38-55
5) .45-70
Question, now is there something in North America that I can't take down? Also to be fair I do have 2x .44 Magnum and 1x .357 Magnum Carbines for Cowboy Action shooting.
"Magnum" is just a name; it's nothing more than marketing hype.
Consider that the .30-06 can be, and is being, loaded to velocities (with 180gr bullets) that are equivalent to original .300 H&H Mag loads. The .416 Rigby - no "magnum" in the name, so is it somehow inferior to the .416 RM? What about the Dakota line of cartridges? Or the 9.3x62/64, are they "magnums"? The .280 AI outperforms the 7mm WSM, so is it a magnum?
What is your definition of "magnum"?
Consider that the .30-06 can be, and is being, loaded to velocities (with 180gr bullets) that are equivalent to original .300 H&H Mag loads. The .416 Rigby - no "magnum" in the name, so is it somehow inferior to the .416 RM? What about the Dakota line of cartridges? Or the 9.3x62/64, are they "magnums"? The .280 AI outperforms the 7mm WSM, so is it a magnum?
What is your definition of "magnum"?
I was busy typing. I meant to say is similar to. My bad.yes, quite similar, 100 fps gap, all things being equal (barrel length, powders, pressures, etc)
I dont really see the need for a magnum smaller than 33 caliber
a 270 Winchester is as good of a long range deer cartridge as the 7mm Rem Mag is
if it takes more gun than a 270 or 30-06, I want to shoot a bigger, heavier bullet, not push the same bullet faster!
hunt closer, not shoot further
I dont really see the need for a magnum smaller than 33 caliber
a 270 Winchester is as good of a long range deer cartridge as the 7mm Rem Mag is
if it takes more gun than a 270 or 30-06, I want to shoot a bigger, heavier bullet, not push the same bullet faster!
hunt closer, not shoot further
