Who Has a Three Line Model Of 1907 Carbine Mosin Nagant?

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Hello,

If you have one, please post and if you have pictures, I would love to see them! Definitely one on my list of someday-buys so PM if you would ever be interested in letting a young collector get his hands on one!

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Drachenblut
 
Your not the only one out there looking :p They are EXTREAMLY rare, especially on this side of the border. Don't expect one to just turn up on the EE :p I have been looking for a little over a year for one and would be willing to pay quite a bit!
 
Its not even an issue with money in most cases. The richest man in the world could want one more then anything and never get it - its all on whats out there and in this case - slim pickin's :p
 
Hmm. What a shame. I'm surprised there were never any M91's cut down to that length, after looking at Russian Mosin history over the decades, they seem to like the idea the "If rifle too long, well is too long, too bad. But cut down, sure, why not!" Odd thing is, why would they issue the Dragoon rifle and Cossack rifles to horsemen, and those rifles are only a few inches shorter than an M-91, it sounds a bit rediculous to me to have an arm so long for that purpose.
 
I might have to settle for a M-38 early rifle, say 1939 or 1940, as I owned a 1943 once and the thing looked like Boris had a bit too much Vodka when he built it, the barrel wasn't smoothed and looked like a slinky coil, the back of the bolt guides looked like they had been finished off with a blow torch.
 
In 1891, the rifle also served as a pike. Not nearly as effective as a real one but the mindset from the previous 50 years was still there. One thing about long rifles as well, in pre 20th century times, eye glasses were extremely expensive. For aging warriors, a long barrel allowed the sights to be placed further out and therefore still useful.

Just joking about aging warriors eyes but it's true even today. I have a buddy that is just starting to realise the wonders of long barreled rifles.
 
Your right about an M91 being a pike, my Finn M91 loves the 91/30 bayonet I picked up for it. I have even be able to close doors from the comfort of my computer chair that I was too lazy to get up and do myself :D.
 
I think it highly likely that the bulk of the originals went down in front of the Maxims at Tannenberg and Bolimow and then were picked up and scrapped.

The Germans did issue quite a number of 1891 rifles to their Navy in order to free up 98s for the Front, but the little Carbines would have been too short, they chambered a non-standard cartridge and the Germans realised that the big day for Cavalry was in the past. Cavalry remained a reconnaissance force, as it should have, and the trend was to longer barrels anyway. It would have been easier to issue '98aZs than to try to find and issue ammo for specialty troops operating with the poor MN.

I'm afraid that the bulk of them went to the smelter in 1914, '15, '16 and '17 and that the few left in Russia likely would have been worn out in the following 6 years of fighting. Transcaucasian federated Republics (Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan) were not forced into the Soviet Onion until 1923.

Like the man said: unobtainium, absolutely chemically pure. If you were to talk REALLY nicely to Mister Putin, he MIGHT be able to find one for you, but that's about it.
 
Hmm. Well perhaps Mr. Putin might enjoy some old home brewed Ukrainian Vodka of my Grandfathers I happen to have here... fair price exchange for "Old Tsarist Crud Peashooter Short Carbine"
 
Dobry horoshy!

Around here, the definition of "aged" homemade vodka is "anything over 2 hours".

Last week's is classed as "vintage".

At my brother's wedding a number of years ago, the 300 guests drank up (current prices) $10,000 worth of booze in the first hour. THEN everybody went outside, go to peekup truck, find jug under cheeckens in back, you know.

Party went 3 days.

Good people are where you find them.
 
Ah yes, that sounds excellent. My grandfather used to love making a home brew out of wine, you just have to chill it enough to seperate the alcohol from the other constituents, and siphon the alchie off. Perfectly legal as you are not "distilling" anything. You don't get much, but then again, he used to make about 1000 litres a summer of wine, just to get about 100 litres or less of this "Ukrainian Grappa". I got to try some once and it was pretty strong. In any event, back to the gun discussion, it looks like I will have to settle out for an early WWII M38 Carbine in it's original stock, any idea of availiability and price?
 
M38s in wartime M38 stocks are around. I purchased mine for 220$ cdn. A nice surprise was the MO mark on the reciever!
 
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