Who has a x95......Accuracy, what is the deal
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SquidMeister
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I have an aimpoint PRO on mine, and I am getting 2-3 in~ groups at 50 yards rested with norinco surplus ammo
You sure you got the decimal in the right place? Or does that include rounds fired while you were playing Call Of Duty when you got home?
That sounds realistic with that ammo-distance-optics combination, gets the job done indeed. Now try various positional shooting at 100 yard, prone-kneeling-standing I have no doubt it will get the job done too.
Now I am disappointed LOL.
Same at 100 with a Primary Arms 3X Prism, AE range ammo
I don't think anyone (who has done their research anyway) buys this gun, or the Tavor, because it's a tack driver. It's a 2 MOA rifle that'll shoot anything you put into it (and I've used a lot of different ammo from cheap MFS steel case to various handloads, and it's never failed to go bang. And when it runs out of ammo you can use it as a club, or a shovel LOL. I won't be buying an X-95 though, I already have a 2 MOA club - a Tavor
I don't think anyone (who has done their research anyway) buys this gun, or the Tavor, because it's a tack driver. It's a 2 MOA rifle that'll shoot anything you put into it (and I've used a lot of different ammo from cheap MFS steel case to various handloads, and it's never failed to go bang. And when it runs out of ammo you can use it as a club, or a shovel LOL. I won't be buying an X-95 though, I already have a 2 MOA club - a Tavor
I think of them as essentially "Canadian Glocks" because pistols are too evil for this Country.
Well another big advantage they do have, even over Glocks
, is their unrestricted status .
I run a Mepro M5 RDS and I quite like it. When the battery needs to be replaced, the dot will start blinking with greater frequency until it finally dies. A typical Alkaline AA has a life of about 7 months before it starts blinking.
The only oddity I've found is with the brightness knob. All the way up is off. All the way down is the nightvision setting, not visible to the naked eye. SOmetimes that knob will get caught on something, get turned all the way up or down, so when you bring the rifle up you see no dot.
The only oddity I've found is with the brightness knob. All the way up is off. All the way down is the nightvision setting, not visible to the naked eye. SOmetimes that knob will get caught on something, get turned all the way up or down, so when you bring the rifle up you see no dot.
onetwentyish
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I have not shot my x95 yet but I did a very in depth disassembly. There is no reason the x95 should have worse accuracy other than the handguard stabilization shim that is on the barrel. I have removed my handguard stabilization shim, the top rail supports it enough with out it. With this shim removed, the barrel is completely free floated forward of the gas block. Internal components are completely the same as the TAR, so the worst it can be is what the TAR is. With the barrel free floated, results can only get better in my opinion.
It seems the X95 is more like a 3.5-5 MOA rifle and yes it matters; all of the various elements of inconsistency (skill, ammo, rifle) add up and detract from overall accuracy. + skill can improve and ammo can be varied but a poorly designed rifle is something you are basically stuck with. I wish the x95 had cured the Tavor accuracy problems but sadly that seems not to be the case. Even the keltec SU16s I've shot could manage 2 MOA. For the money the x95 is not worth it...
onetwentyish
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I suppose that would be highly dependent on what your expectations are going in. You do realize this is a rifle that was designed for largely CQB purposes with the goal in mind of having a dead nuts reliable firearm that when shouldered has a shorter/smaller foot print than a soldier shooting a pistol arms extended. When you take into consideration those as the main concerns, the accuracy issue becomes irrelevant.
Internally the x9t and Tar-21 are identical. They share reciever inserts, barrels, bolt carrier groups, trigger components, etc. This is literally a re-skin of an existing proven platform.
I don't think it is irrelevant. The reality is in this day and age of manufacturing, the rifle should be accurate - especially for the cost of the platform.
Why have a bullpup design? It's to fit a rifle length barrel in a compact package.
Why does it need a rifle length barrel? For the velocities and accuracy needed for the job it's supposed to do.
It's a failure in the accuracy department (IMHO, insofar as what can be achieved), and if a rifle length barrel is needed for the velocities required for the job, maybe the ammunition isn't up to snuff either.
Why have a bullpup design? It's to fit a rifle length barrel in a compact package.
Why does it need a rifle length barrel? For the velocities and accuracy needed for the job it's supposed to do.
It's a failure in the accuracy department (IMHO, insofar as what can be achieved), and if a rifle length barrel is needed for the velocities required for the job, maybe the ammunition isn't up to snuff either.
To be fair, IDF models don't have a rifle length barrel. They have a 13" barrel. The X95 is, in practical terms, a submachinegun that doubles as a carbine when needed and that configuration should tell you all you need to know. 3-ish MOA, while not fantastic, is acceptable for a service rifle. Though I wouldn't be surprised if those 13" models are more accurate than what we got *because* of the short barrels, and the relative contact points.
I'm not sure why everyone's harping about on Tavor (not the X95) accuracy though, mine shoots great. I routinely get 2.5 MOA with a 2MOA red dot and XM193 ball. The trick is to NOT shoot from a bench, because thats the most awkward thing you can do with a Tavor.
