Who has nice laminate, blued sks's without butchered mags for sale?

CanadianBaconPancakes said:
Thanks for the response, The pics look like painted mag so I just wanted to confirm.

No go with westrifle, They all have the welded mags. Been watching Weimejack posts for the right one but I don't think I get to it often enough.
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I clean the paint and reblued the welded. Now is 100% blued. Staff from weimarjack
 
FreedomIsn'tFree said:
I have a few Chinese in cosmo that I have been thinking about parting with. The problem is that when you list them for sale for more than they cost 3 years ago, the azzhats come out with their "They used to be $75.00" comments. I wouldn't part with them for under $300.00 now, because they are worth more to me to let them sit as they are.
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Anyone that thinks they should get an sks of any type for 75$ is out for lunch...
 
FreedomIsn'tFree said:
I have a few Chinese in cosmo that I have been thinking about parting with. The problem is that when you list them for sale for more than they cost 3 years ago, the azzhats come out with their "They used to be $75.00" comments. I wouldn't part with them for under $300.00 now, because they are worth more to me to let them sit as they are.
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Yea I used to think that too, but it's supply and demand, Marstar sold a few he had squirrelled away there about 6 months ago and I believe it was $300 or more, most places are asking close to $300 for a nice Russian copy, if you were thinking of selling I would do it,, the Chinese still have millions of these things in Giant warehouses, so any time there may be a couple containers full hit the shores!
 
I would buy a chinese (2-3) if more came into the country and parts were plentiful. I have had to many broken guns and learnt my lesson... Im trying to fix a norinco right now...
 
mad_mardigen said:
Confirmed, I have 5 of the unreferb unissued and they are are all painted after pinning
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I understand the unrefurbed part as there are things to look for to determine if the SKS has been refurbed, however, how do you tell if it has never been issued or fired? I have a couple non refurb and will be buy 2-3 more in a week but I would love to know how to prove unissued/ unfired!
Thanks.
 
bobdbldr said:
I understand the unrefurbed part as there are things to look for to determine if the SKS has been refurbed, however, how do you tell if it has never been issued or fired? I have a couple non refurb and will be buy 2-3 more in a week but I would love to know how to prove unissued/ unfired!
Thanks.
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They are all fired regardless of what anyone says. You can get an idea from the bolt face condition tho but then again it could be swapped out or even scrubbed clean. You could check the rails, or gas port for wear. Muzzle crown for wear may be a good one to check too.

Red Lacquer on bolt face is a dead give away.
 
Well they are fired for testing and yea you can tell usually if they have been fired a lot, but I was more getting at the unissued non refurb,, how can you tell it wasn't issued? I am not trying to say they aren't around, I seriously would like to know the process as I have a couple non refurb, some look fired but some look pretty darn good and could be unfired/ unissued! I would love to be able too say I have an as new SKS,,, just one would be awesome!
 
The last time I looked Weimejack had a nice laminated stocked 55 56 but the trap door was not working . take the butt plate off and try to fix it . it's got a rivet and is'nt welded. you'd better nail one if you want one .
 
bp2626 said:
The only SKS that came with a laminate stock from the factory are the "k" series. Which we believe to be assembled in 1958. Any other rifle with a laminate stock is refurbished.
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What? Where did you get that info? From everything I have read, late 55 and on( 56, 57 and 58) should have laminate stocks and I presume could have birch stocks too as they were assembling from existing parts.
 
bobdbldr said:
What? Where did you get that info? From everything I have read, late 55 and on( 56, 57 and 58) should have laminate stocks and I presume could have birch stocks too as they were assembling from existing parts.
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You are right... they produced the laminated from late 55 and on but most are the ''K'' serie.
My 5 laminated are as follow:
3 ''K''
1 ''revers N''
1 1955..... very rare

They are 100% Non-Refurb and the are alls rivet pined (extra clean) and unfired or close to
 
bleuet001 said:
You are right... they produced the laminated from late 55 and on but most are the ''K'' serie.
My 5 laminated are as follow:
3 ''K''
1 ''revers N''
1 1955..... very rare
Oh, now I heard the 58/k was most rare among the letter series, that interesting, and you say the 1955 is very rare, by that do you mean non refurb or all 1955, sorry for all the questions but I am still learning about these beasts and all info is appreciated! Thanks
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bobdbldr said:
What? Where did you get that info? From everything I have read, late 55 and on( 56, 57 and 58) should have laminate stocks and I presume could have birch stocks too as they were assembling from existing parts.
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Observation, years of collecting and conversations with other collectors. I've been through numerous crates of SKS rifles and have had conversations with guys who have processed literally thousands of them. However, I am only one man and am fallible.

Here is what I have observed:

In late 1957 or early 1958 they ran out of their existing surplus of birch stocks and started making new stocks in the early Soviet style lamination pattern. Some late "I" (Й) series rifles may and most "K" (К) series rifles will be in this early pattern of lamination. I have never observed a "D" (Д) series rifle that had an early pattern laminate stock that was original to the rifle. I presume there are some "I" (Й) series rifles in laminated stocks but the overwhelming majority of them are in birch. Many of the "non-refurbished" rifles in laminate stocks are in stocks of the late pattern that wasn't produced until the 1960s or 1970s.

bleuet001 said:
You are right... they produced the laminated from late 55 and on but most are the ''K'' serie.
My 5 laminated are as follow:
3 ''K''
1 ''revers N''
1 1955..... very rare

They are 100% Non-Refurb and the are alls rivet pined (extra clean) and unfired or close to
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Would you please post photos of the I series and the 1955? Stock serial number stamping, both sides of the crossbolt and the right side of the buttstock. I would like to confirm that later "I" guns came laminated which I believe to be true. I do not believe the "D" guns were shipped in anything other than birch. I could be wrong though, it could be in late 1956 that they started producing laminated stocks and there might be a handful of "D" guns in laminate.
 
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bobdbldr said:
Well they are fired for testing and yea you can tell usually if they have been fired a lot, but I was more getting at the unissued non refurb,, how can you tell it wasn't issued? I am not trying to say they aren't around, I seriously would like to know the process as I have a couple non refurb, some look fired but some look pretty darn good and could be unfired/ unissued! I would love to be able too say I have an as new SKS,,, just one would be awesome!
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I would think checking for a sanded stock ( no star ) and it looking primo would be a good start. If it still has not been sanded what's the chance it was issued? Not sure just a guess tho.
 
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