Who imports the Walther P 99
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peter2772000
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- Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Which one are you looking at? I have/had both the AS & the QA. Definitely two different beasts...
I am also interested in P99 .40 S&W. But the Canadian prices are outrageous. The MRSP is circa $784 but here it is like around $1000. Why such a high markup for Walther, SIG and H&K?
Also, Isn't the P99 9mm prohibited as it has a 4" barrel?
Also, Isn't the P99 9mm prohibited as it has a 4" barrel?
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1) see two (2)
2) the Canadian ones have a slightly longer barrel - special factory run.
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peter2772000
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Montreal, Quebec, Canada
I presently own the QA and will always consider it to be by "home-defence" tool. I traded the AS for an HK USP. Both P-99's were in .40S&W
The AS shoots great outta the box. It's your typical DA/SA pistol, and it shoots well. With its 4-point something barrel (which makes it non-prohibited), I shot 1.5-2" groups at 15 yards. Nothing to brag about, seeing as I could do 2-3" at 25 yards with a full-size .45, but not bad for a Tupperware 4 incher. It's a great pistol and needs no work (or at least, my Gen I didn't).
My Gen III Qa is a different story. If I'd paid the $1,200 CAN price tag these pistols are going for, I'd have been pissed big time. But I bought mine slightly used....
The QA is a sort of DA only with a precocked hammer. Trigger finger was in pain after 3-4 mags. The trigger pull is atrocious. It's supposed to be somewhere around 8 lbs. Mine went something like this;
4, 5, 6 8, 9 10, 12, 13 lbs BANG.
The trigger is supposed to smooth out after 500 rounds or so. Bullcrap, if you ask me. My used handgun already had around 500 rounds under her belt, I put on another coupla hundred. No difference. And groupings? What a joke! I could barely hit the target at 15 yards, let alone create a group worth mentioning. I was bummed, but I had initially bought this as a home-defence tool, so 25 yard accuracy wasn't really important.
Then I cleaned up the trigger action as per the instructions on the WaltherForums site. Group sizes went down from barely hitting the paper to groupings of around 2-3". I am very happy now.
The reason I wanted the QA is because of the take-down de-cocker. On the AS, you can de-#### the hammer by depressing the de-cocker located on the top of the slide. This simply puts the pistol back into DA (for the 1st shot) mode.
On the QA, however, a smaller decocker button in the same location is supposed to be used only to prepare for dis-assembly. So if one was to decock a chambered QA and unauthorized hands were to grab hold of it, it'd be as useful as a rock or book-end. However, pulling back a mere 3/8" of inch on the slide would put it back into the usual partially pre-cocked QA mode, and now you're huntin' bear
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And that's why I still have my QA. And love it
PS: I've heard that the new (meaning 2008 and newer) QA's have much smoother triggers due to cleaning up of the transfer bar (which is one of the mods I did). So it is possible that a brand-new, 2008-manufactured pistol, will be satisfactory
The AS shoots great outta the box. It's your typical DA/SA pistol, and it shoots well. With its 4-point something barrel (which makes it non-prohibited), I shot 1.5-2" groups at 15 yards. Nothing to brag about, seeing as I could do 2-3" at 25 yards with a full-size .45, but not bad for a Tupperware 4 incher. It's a great pistol and needs no work (or at least, my Gen I didn't).
My Gen III Qa is a different story. If I'd paid the $1,200 CAN price tag these pistols are going for, I'd have been pissed big time. But I bought mine slightly used....
The QA is a sort of DA only with a precocked hammer. Trigger finger was in pain after 3-4 mags. The trigger pull is atrocious. It's supposed to be somewhere around 8 lbs. Mine went something like this;
4, 5, 6 8, 9 10, 12, 13 lbs BANG.
The trigger is supposed to smooth out after 500 rounds or so. Bullcrap, if you ask me. My used handgun already had around 500 rounds under her belt, I put on another coupla hundred. No difference. And groupings? What a joke! I could barely hit the target at 15 yards, let alone create a group worth mentioning. I was bummed, but I had initially bought this as a home-defence tool, so 25 yard accuracy wasn't really important.
Then I cleaned up the trigger action as per the instructions on the WaltherForums site. Group sizes went down from barely hitting the paper to groupings of around 2-3". I am very happy now.
The reason I wanted the QA is because of the take-down de-cocker. On the AS, you can de-#### the hammer by depressing the de-cocker located on the top of the slide. This simply puts the pistol back into DA (for the 1st shot) mode.
On the QA, however, a smaller decocker button in the same location is supposed to be used only to prepare for dis-assembly. So if one was to decock a chambered QA and unauthorized hands were to grab hold of it, it'd be as useful as a rock or book-end. However, pulling back a mere 3/8" of inch on the slide would put it back into the usual partially pre-cocked QA mode, and now you're huntin' bear
.And that's why I still have my QA. And love it
PS: I've heard that the new (meaning 2008 and newer) QA's have much smoother triggers due to cleaning up of the transfer bar (which is one of the mods I did). So it is possible that a brand-new, 2008-manufactured pistol, will be satisfactory
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On the QA, however, a smaller decocker button in the same location is supposed to be used only to prepare for dis-assembly. So if one was to decock a chambered QA and unauthorized hands were to grab hold of it, it'd be as useful as a rock or book-end. However, pulling back a mere 3/8" of inch on the slide would put it back into the usual partially pre-cocked QA mode, and now you're huntin' bear
I thought that the AS is better. If you accidentally decock a QA then it is useless to YOU also. In any SD situation your site is on the target not whether the striker is cocked or not.(you attention is not on the red indicator) This is just my thought. I would prefer a DA/SA rather than 8 or 10lb QA any day.
For the scenario you described a semi-auto with mag disconnect is a much better choice.
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peter2772000
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Montreal, Quebec, Canada
It's actually quite hard to de-#### the QA. It takes a concerted effort to do so. The approx. 3/8" diameter round button is less than half the size of the oval de-cocker on the AS. The Montreal Police Department is using the QA and I personally have never heard of a case of accidental de-cocking. Though I admit that it is theoretically possible. Walther reccommends (due to the difficulty in de-cocking with a finger) that you de-#### the QA using a handcuff key.
I've practiced re-cocking the pistol (by pulling the slide back ever-so slightly, about 3/8") as I pick it up. I've got it down to a science now, it was very easy to adapt. No firearm is safe while loaded, I will admit. But this is the only pistol out of my rather large collection of mostly auto pistols that I would theoretically dare leave loaded & chambered in a drawer.
Racking back a slide & letting it snap forward QUIETLY (as is reccommended to make sure the slide is in battery afterwards) at 2:00 am while an intruder is in your living room is, at the very least, almost impossible to do. My method is quiet and will give me the element of surprise.
Again, this is all theoretical.
I've practiced re-cocking the pistol (by pulling the slide back ever-so slightly, about 3/8") as I pick it up. I've got it down to a science now, it was very easy to adapt. No firearm is safe while loaded, I will admit. But this is the only pistol out of my rather large collection of mostly auto pistols that I would theoretically dare leave loaded & chambered in a drawer.
Racking back a slide & letting it snap forward QUIETLY (as is reccommended to make sure the slide is in battery afterwards) at 2:00 am while an intruder is in your living room is, at the very least, almost impossible to do. My method is quiet and will give me the element of surprise.
Again, this is all theoretical.
