Who is loading for the 338 Ultra Mag or Edge?
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my experience loading the 338 Ultra, 97grs H1000 under a 250gr Partition = 3070 fps (26" m700)
recoil made me sell the rifle before I took it to the range againtoo much for me
That's a pretty warm load...With a warm snap to boot (pardon the pun)!
The factory 338 Ultra Mags are a bit too light for that sort of recoil level (all of the UMAGS have the same stupid barrel contour). Some suit at Remington made that decision.
For most guys 9.0 pounds is much more comfortable to shoot. At 9 pounds (complete) recoil is about the same as an 8 pound 8mag....Back in the shootable range.
my experience loading the 338 Ultra, 97grs H1000 under a 250gr Partition = 3070 fps (26" m700)
recoil made me sell the rifle before I took it to the range again
And I bought this rifle!!! Loved it for hunting in Alberta (moose and elk). Hated it at the range/sighting it in...8 rounds was about all my t-shirt clad shoulder could take...the rainbow effect on my shoulder over the next week or 2 was always entertaining!!! Would still have it but have since moved to Manitoba with work and it is simply too much gun for the whitetail around here so it sat in my safe doing nothing. I sold it late last summer. Still torn about the decision.
that rifle was the first I had ever bought online, in around 2005. Got it from the original owner (it was a 700 BDL SS in plastic with hard rubber pad) and he had sold it to switch back to a 375 H&H I recall. The laminate stock with limbsaver pad helped tame it some, but not that much 
I break 3100 easily with 225 grain Accubonds and H1000. It is also simple to break 3000 with 250 grain Grand Slams and Retumbo. Great accuracy with both. Your nerve will go quickly, so they are usually three shot groups. I have a 26" barrel on my Model 700. Favorite hunting rifle. Have shot everything from whitetails and mulies to moose and elk with it.
Thanks for all your responses, guys.
I am considering one for hunting woods bison at long range. They have become very, very, spooky, and often stand there 5-600 yd away. They are very tough animals, weighing well over a ton, and that is a lot farther than I am comfortable using a 375 H&H or 358 Norma Mag.
Sounds to me like it would take a lot of work and punishment to get good enough with one of those rifles to take advantage of the 3000 fps and better trajectory.
I'll just continue to be patient and stalk closer.
Ted
I am considering one for hunting woods bison at long range. They have become very, very, spooky, and often stand there 5-600 yd away. They are very tough animals, weighing well over a ton, and that is a lot farther than I am comfortable using a 375 H&H or 358 Norma Mag.
Sounds to me like it would take a lot of work and punishment to get good enough with one of those rifles to take advantage of the 3000 fps and better trajectory.
I'll just continue to be patient and stalk closer.
Ted
The recoil is manageable. Don' t let that shy you away from buying an ultra mangle'um. I find that I don't even notice the recoil when hunting in the winter with all my winter gear on. The .338 RUM is an incredible long-range calibre and very accurate.
The best way to an Ultra mag is to custom build one. Like I said get the weight up to 9 pounds and the 338 Ultra is no biggy.
If I were shooting bison at reasonably long range I would have a 375 Ultra.
It has all you need for shots at any reasonable distance and the power to crush beasts up close.
Bison aren't very skittish at all.............With a 375 hole in them I find them......Well......Relaxed.
If I were shooting bison at reasonably long range I would have a 375 Ultra.
It has all you need for shots at any reasonable distance and the power to crush beasts up close.
Bison aren't very skittish at all.............With a 375 hole in them I find them......Well......Relaxed.
Get a muzzle brake if it's a hunting rifle. The few shots you take won't kill your ears and if it's a long shot you have time to put in earplugs. Stick with a slick high BC bullet for those long shots.
I was looking at my reloading manuals and comparing the 338RUM to the 338Lapua. They are so close that given the ease of getting the RUM brass why would you get a Lapua? And for all the Lapua guys out there, I found the proper pronunciation for the word. It's not La-poo-ah, it's correctly pronounced Lap-wah. Got that from one of there sites.
I would like to know know more about the 338 Edge. I have a 300 RUM and if it only takes necking up my 300 RUM brass to .338 I might try one out.
I was looking at my reloading manuals and comparing the 338RUM to the 338Lapua. They are so close that given the ease of getting the RUM brass why would you get a Lapua? And for all the Lapua guys out there, I found the proper pronunciation for the word. It's not La-poo-ah, it's correctly pronounced Lap-wah. Got that from one of there sites.
I would like to know know more about the 338 Edge. I have a 300 RUM and if it only takes necking up my 300 RUM brass to .338 I might try one out.
I am not a big fan of muzzle brakes. You may only shoot a few shots each year while hunting, but a few shots is all it takes for hearing damage. I find my .338 RUM is less hard on my ears than my CZ858 with a muzzle brake.
Lots of guys talk about bang flops with the Barnes TSX.
Well let me tell you a BIG TSX at good velocity takes the bang flop thing to an entirely new level.
My hunting partners and I (we are all big bore nuts) have seen enough bang flops on bad shots since the release of the TSX to know something is up.
That something (in my opinion) is the performance of big fast TSX bullets have changed the face of the crushing rifle.
Ta-tonka doesn't stand a chance!
Why not just get a Henry rifle like Lt. Dunbar shot in Dances with Fiction? He dropped a wounded ta-tonka really, really far away as it was on a dead run. And hit it so hard that it skidded to a stop!
Sorry boys it must be time for my medication.......
Sorry boys it must be time for my medication.......
