Who knows a lot about SKSs? Bought one and have a few questions.

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KNO3-

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So awhile back i bought a Russian SKS and did the tapco thing, muzzle break, scope, etc :rolleyes:..It was my first rifle and i wanted a "tactical" look but cheap. Didnt take me long to figure out you cant really turn a SKS into a modern rifle and it didnt do what i wanted, plus the mods made it hard to dissasemble and clean. I ended up selling it and just put out the money for some more modern stuff. Since they i have really wanted another though, however this time i wanted to keep everything OEM, right down the the sling. So during the black friday sales i picked one up for $160 but i found a few differences with it and im now regretting selling my other one.

1. stock on my old one was laminated and the butt was solid, this one is hollow with a cleaning kit in it.
2. the machine work on this one is way sloppier, especially the bolt and bolt carrier. The one i sold from what i remember was machined very nice.
3. i cant remove the extractor from the bolt, seems like there is a peice that was pressed in over the spring which my old one didnt have and it prevents you from pushing the extractor back far enough to unhook it off the bolt. My old one popped out perfectly and was nicely finished.
4. The firing pin free floats and in my other one it was spring loaded. The firing pin in my old one also had a lot larger surface where the hammer would strike it.

Anyone run into this before? Now i really want to find what i had before but i have no idea what it was. This one says 1952r on it...i cant remmber what my other one said and i dont even have any pictures because i swapped out the bolt cover for the railed one :(

Anyway...it turned out well after getting it cleaned up but definitally not as well made as my other one. I would never consider changing anything on one of these now...wish i had that type of appriciation for the rifle when i had that other one. :mad:Did i just luck out and find a good one or is there specific ones i need to look for?
 
1. To my knowledge most of them have the cleaning kit in them...Maybe it was a norinco?
2. The chinese ones usually have sloppier machining of parts..
3. I cant help you here...
4. These things never come spring loaded. Someone who owned yours before must have modded it for the spring mod. You can do it yourself if you feel comfortable.
 
dannyd123 said:
14. These things never come spring loaded. Someone who owned yours before must have modded it for the spring mod. You can do it yourself if you feel comfortable.
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1949 and 1950 russians were spring loaded.

I suspect you had a 1950 russian refurb with a laminate stock, i've seen a number of them around. The newer one you have may be a chinese, or may just be a used and abused russian, a few pictures would help identify it.
Most russian refurbs i have seen are of comparable quality, sometime you need to pick through a few to find a real nice one, but they're out there if you look. Several site sponsors here have some really nice looking russians in now.
 
1) Trap door with cleaning kit is normal
2) what year was your other one?
3) To remove the extractor, you place the bolt over a peice of wood with a hole drilled in it. Take a punch and hammer, and drive the pin out from the small side. The larger "D" shaped side holds the extractor in. There were 2 bolt types. The earlier ones had no pin, and the extractor could be removed. 4)Early modles had the spring loaded pin.Yours being a 52 would not...

Read the SKS disassembly sticky... pictures there will clear all this up for you
 
Im 100% positive that my old one was russian and it came with a spring loaded firing pin from the factory. It was un-issued and i cleaned the cosmoline off myself.

This one im pretty sure would be russian since it has the star on it and the bayonett is not the spike version found on the norinco ones. Ill post some pictures...
 
Island'r said:
1) Trap door with cleaning kit is normal
2) what year was your other one?
3) To remove the extractor, you place the bolt over a peice of wood with a hole drilled in it. Take a punch and hammer, and drive the pin out from the small side. The larger "D" shaped side holds the extractor in. There were 2 bolt types. The earlier ones had no pin, and the extractor could be removed. 4)Early modles had the spring loaded pin.Yours being a 52 would not...

Read the SKS disassembly sticky... pictures there will clear all this up for you
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Thanks, i did a quick browse of the stickys but must have missed that one.

*Edit: I still dont see that SKS sticky...am i looking in the wrong forum?
 
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Like anything, it does help to do a bit of research before you buy something. While the SKS was not in service a long time, it do go through three modifications to improve it. I believe from the 1952 Date, this would be a Type II SKS while you probably had a Type III SKS for your first one. The latest Russian models were made in 1953, 54 and 55 and a very few in 56. Chinese and Norinco models are still made today.

As DANNYD123 pointed out, almost all of them had a provision for the cleaning kit in the butt stock. As far as you question Number 3, just WHY do you want or need to remove the extractor when you have a new firearm? The SKS was designed as a rugged Military firearm, to be used by people who really do not have a lot of education or firearms knowledge. The extractor can easily be cleaned without removing it.
 
buffdog said:
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As DANNYD123 pointed out, almost all of them had a provision for the cleaning kit in the butt stock. As far as you question Number 3, just WHY do you want or need to remove the extractor when you have a new firearm? The SKS was designed as a rugged Military firearm, to be used by people who really do not have a lot of education or firearms knowledge. The extractor can easily be cleaned without removing it.
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Haha well mostly because i just like to take everything apart for fun but there was also cosmoline jammed in there and it would have made it easier to remove it...im also going to shoot corrosive ammo so it would be nice to take the bolt appart to make sure its clean.

From reading so far it looks like you just drive out a pin and you can remove the extractor and the pin easily.
 
buffdog said:
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As far as you question Number 3, just WHY do you want or need to remove the extractor when you have a new firearm? The SKS was designed as a rugged Military firearm, to be used by people who really do not have a lot of education or firearms knowledge. The extractor can easily be cleaned without removing it.
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Yes the extractor can be cleaned without removing it... But the best way to clean the firing pin, extractor, and firing pin channel is to knock the pin out pull it apart and clean everything... I hosed mine with brake cleaner but there were still traces of cosmoline in there when I opened it up...

Its good to know how... Some people dont pul the pin or extractor, but who knows if they're missing anything. I like to SEE that my pin/extractor are spotless...

Takes 5 seconds to knock the pin out.
 
KNO3- said:
Haha well mostly because i just like to take everything apart for fun but there was also cosmoline jammed in there and it would have made it easier to remove it...im also going to shoot corrosive ammo so it would be nice to take the bolt appart to make sure its clean.

From reading so far it looks like you just drive out a pin and you can remove the extractor and the pin easily.
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You got it
 
KNO3- said:
1. stock on my old one was laminated and the butt was solid, this one is hollow with a cleaning kit in it. unless someone else changed it, all sks' had the rear trap door except for maybe a German or Polish built version which I doubt very very few Canadians have seen
2. the machine work on this one is way sloppier, especially the bolt and bolt carrier. The one i sold from what i remember was machined very nice. when it comes to sks', there are different finishes and various degrees of condition whether they are as-issued non-refurb to close to being shot out.
3. i cant remove the extractor from the bolt, seems like there is a peice that was pressed in over the spring which my old one didnt have and it prevents you from pushing the extractor back far enough to unhook it off the bolt. My old one popped out perfectly and was nicely finished. 1949 to sometime in 1951 they used a different style bolt than later years. The extractor was slid out by pushing backwards with your thumb and would pop out. Later years, the extractor is held in by the pin that crosses through the bolt.
4. The firing pin free floats and in my other one it was spring loaded. The firing pin in my old one also had a lot larger surface where the hammer would strike it. spring loaded firing pins were original for 1949 to sometime in 1951.
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Joel
 
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