who made these stocks ?

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Had a major hiccup out hunting and my custom US rifle caliber 30 1917 got tweeked big time . This was a locally made gun probably 20-30 years ago but having found an identical unfinished stock kicking around tells me the gunsmith must have purchased a semi finished stock for it . Unfortunately the semi finished stock is for a different action ( I believe a 98 ) and will not work . Does anyone know where a guy can get a stock like one of these or would one have to make one from scratch ?
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Thanks for the help .
 
That could be a Bishop or a Fajen blank... but I am not sure... unfortunately a lot of the old stock suppliers have gone out of business... due to lack of sales with increasing costs.

That was a very poorly laid out blank that broke and it is repairable.
 
Actually, it's an old Don Robinson blank from the Winfield area in BC. He shut down the business a few years back though. Guntech is correct in saying that the broken stock is repairable, and would probably be a lot stronger after repair then it was originally.

Kind of looks like an ATV inspired mishap. bearhunter
 
Stock profile could be almost anybody's however bearhunter has it nailed......looks like a local duplicated from a Roberts Wood Product Stock from the 1960's.

You could have the stock duplicated by any number of companies. You need a good blank and then it needs to be finished. Cost to duplicate is $150.00 to 200.00 depending on who does it.....and a blank....$100.00 to 1000.00. The wood on yours is very plain and would be at the lower end of the scale. Then it needs to be fit and finished...another $300.00 to 800.00 depending who does it.

You should try to understand how the stock broke. A fall? Recoil? Weakness in the wood? It can be repaired however the repair will always be visible.....I can get them very, very close..... the joint can be hidden in the finish. Your stock could be checkered after repair and it would disguise the damage.

I would look for a replacement stock. You may not get the same profile however you may get an equivalent monte carlo with the proper grain flow. Sounds like you have a nice rifle.

Let us know what you decide.

Cheers, Ron
 
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Aftermarket stocks for a P-17 aren't difficult to come by, but you're looking at bringing it in from the States. Unless you can find a Canadian stock maker.
Contact this guy. He's not Gunparts/Numrich. About half way down. Add the W's.
.gun-parts.com/militarystocks/
 
Thanks for the info guys .
It is definately not repairable - my pictures must be pretty poor . Large sections are missing and the cracks run way up . It's mashed up bad .
Bearhunter is pretty close as to its demise , If you consider a Samurai an ATV anyway . The rifle was in a ATV gun boot across the back of the truck , the rack seemed like a well thought out idea and for the most part it was . Until I was crawling across a snow covered sidehill between the trees that were left standing . The back end slipped out and put the side of the truck up against a tree . One quick " pop" later and I'm faced with the decision do I fix it , and how or sell it as a project as is ?
300 win mag , detachable magazine , shot very good when it was in one piece ....
 
Can you put up some pictures of the metal. I'm interested as to how the detachable magazine was set up. Thanks, Ron
 
RR, I was thinking the same thing. Looks like a Pedersen. Is the mag a single stack?? Rifle Ranch may be stamped somewhere as well. Old style wicked rollover, Mark
 
This was made by a local gunsmith many years ago . As to the questions on the gun the magazine is a double stack variety that was made by tig welding two Parker Hale magazines together ( it holds 3 ) , the floor metal appears to have been welded at the front ( can't tell when the rifle was assembled ) . the box for the magazine is silver soldered to the reciever ( one joint has cracked - don't know if it's from recoil or the impact ) . The letter A is stamped near the 300w.m. mark but no AP or rifle ranch . a lot of " flaming eyeball " looking marks though . The trigger definately doesn't look like the rest of the gun - its to billet looking if you know what I mean .
Anyway , what could a guy fetch for a project such as this ?
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Someone really went out of their way to produce that rifle. Demilled it completely. Installed an aftermarket trigger and trigger gaurd, Parker Hale, and a modified PH mag. Ingenious work. The sight protector rear bridge was also milled, filled and tapped. The original bbl was probably rechambered while still on the receiver with a threaded butt and attachment on the reamer. The receiver well, mag and floorplate were also cut out and modified for the 300WM cartridge. If it's done right, it should work just fine.

I'm really wondering if it isn't one of the International reworks from 25 years ago that was improved upon?

Whatever it was, it's quite well done and if it's accurate as well it's well worth restocking and useing. It's doubtfull that you will get what its worth out of it at this stage of the game.

That being said, because it is such a mixmaster, $200-$300, If you can find someone that appreciates such work anymore. bearhunter
 
Yes , when it worked it worked great . But it was no match for a tree .
I do think you are right about how they may have rechambered the original barrel but tell me this :
The reciever is a high luster polish , but the barrel is a coarser ground dull blueing . How did they keep the two finishes apart while they left it all together ?
Your estimation of worth is kinda what I was thinking - Thanks
 
That is tough RUPZUK, however when I was working on the 300 I have, i got a stock, rough finished, from Western Gun Parts. That was over a year ago so I cannot say what the prices would be now!
 
Who was the gunsmith that did the work? Could you let me know the serial number on the receiver as well as the barrel. This will tell us whether the rifle was customized from a military original or was a modified BSA, International or other?

I have seen the Parker Hale bottom metal conversions a few times. It uses the Parker Hale 98 clip release metal fixed to the front section of the Enfield trigger guard. Usually the liner is not welded to the receiver however your liner appears to be a fabrication to suit the clip and could only be fixed by this method. The clip is magnum size and I believe unmodified. I don't believes the feed rails had to be modified as the feeding is controlled by the magazine. I would need a height x width x depth measurements to verify against one of mine to validate my statement.

Was the barrel bent during the mishap? What is barrel length? Any sights or evidence of sights being on the barrrel?

It was quite common to rechamber the Enfield to 300 Win Mag or 308 Norma Mag with the barrel on the receiver.

Interesting project.

Ron
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bearhunter said:
Actually, it's an old Don Robinson blank from the Winfield area in BC. He shut down the business a few years back though. Guntech is correct in saying that the broken stock is repairable, and would probably be a lot stronger after repair then it was originally.

Kind of looks like an ATV inspired mishap. bearhunter
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If it is a Robinson , Robert Wilson from Harris Sask has all his Patterns.

Rich
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