Who makes the best ambi ar lowers out there?

Just a question... With the Canadian and US militaries retrofitting ambi-catch mag releases on their fleets of M4/C7/C8's without the requirement to change the design of the lower receivers, and on all of my AR’s that have Norgon’s I have never inadvertently dumped a mag, why do you think a “cut out” is needed?

Seems like a lot of reengineering to fix a problem that doesn’t exist.

I would say for the same reason there is a protective wall around the actual mag release. It's harder to accidentally hit it either while handling or bumping it etc. Plus it adds as a physical locator for the shooter when going to activate the magazine release.

The retrofit does work and improves it. It's a low cost solution for them compared to replacing all the existing lowers. The very fact they are switching over shows it's considered a valuable addition. That being said a lower designed with this feature will be better. It wouldn't surprise me to see the AR lower adapt into this as mainstream eventually. As for a bunch more engineering. Not really. We've seen a few companies already with this. They felt it wasn't too much to do.

It's a smart stop gap solution for now. Eventually the ambi bolt release will also be something they will want. When the lowers are eventually replaced they will most likely include these two extra features.

The AR rifles I'm putting together are what I think the 21st century fighting AR should be. I don't need ambi controls but they do offer advantages. Add the ADCOR upper with it's piston/DI hybrid system, ambi side charging handle along with built in dust guard/wiper and I believe you've got the face of the AR for the next 10 years. A rifle that costs less for a military already using AR systems to adopt, requires only some software changes to existing programs and utilizes most of the same parts, equipment etc already being used. It offers everything the current 21st century rifles are offering in a cheap upgrade while offering all the advantages of the DI AR system. Hopefully the ADCOR upper system does well in the second phase of the M4 replacement trials. After that it goes head to head with the enhanced DI M4. Should be interesting.

As for buying one now as a consumer. Why would I pay more for a stripped lower that offers the ambi bolt release but not the cut out for the ambi mag? All of the options listed so far as ambi without the cut out are listed as more than what I paid for the HERA lower. The HERA lower by the way appears to be the Magpul lower design.

I should add that I figured the AR was in it's twilight years for being a modern firearm. I really like them and considered it the modern sporting rifle but I could see bullpups taking over as a mainstay infantry rifle with AR's only for specialized use. I'm extremely happy to see the recent developments. The ADCOR upper with ambi lowers and all the options available has me seeing that the AR is nowhere near done yet. These are exciting times for the AR rifle and firearms owners.
 
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Just received the Hera HLS lowers today. Beautiful. perfect finish. They have the ambi bolt release installed and included a stainless pistol grip screw with a proper hex top not the slot style you'll see with cheap brands. These lowers are a class act. Just waiting now for the AR tool kit, Norgon release and spike enhanced LPKs to arrive. Everything else is ready to go.
 
Just received the Hera HLS lowers today. Beautiful. perfect finish. They have the ambi bolt release installed and included a stainless pistol grip screw with a proper hex top not the slot style you'll see with cheap brands. These lowers are a class act. Just waiting now for the AR tool kit, Norgon release and spike enhanced LPKs to arrive. Everything else is ready to go.

I'm stoked you're happy with them!
 
I'm stoked you're happy with them!

Very much so. More parts arrived. Just waiting for the Spike enhanced LPK kits now.

I'm going to paint in the fire/safe selector with the appropriate red/white. I've seen pictures with this and it looks good in my opinion.
 
The only truly ambi-lower that is out there is KAC, if you look at where the cuts that have been made on the lower it's self explanatory. It's the best there is and really Epoxy7 I think you should get one an you will see why in a very short order!
 
Epoxy7 "The ones being discussed are true ambi. KAC, Hera and others. The ATR one has the bolt release but from the pictures the left side mag release doesn't have the cut out to protect the mag release like the others discussed."


Just a question... With the Canadian and US militaries retrofitting ambi-catch mag releases on their fleets of M4/C7/C8's without the requirement to change the design of the lower receivers, and on all of my AR’s that have Norgon’s I have never inadvertently dumped a mag, why do you think a “cut out” is needed?

Seems like a lot of reengineering to fix a problem that doesn’t exist.

The KAC enhancement is not just the amb-mag release cutout, but the ambi-bolt release, where KAC did this on the lower is exactly ergonomically speaking where it should be for a gunfighter. I know you know this but, it must be stated they did it all the way right the first time. KAC leads the way.
 
The KAC enhancement is not just the amb-mag release cutout, but the ambi-bolt release, where KAC did this on the lower is exactly ergonomically speaking where it should be for a gunfighter. I know you know this but, it must be stated they did it all the way right the first time. KAC leads the way.

Yup I like how they did it with the ambi controls. The HLS looks good and the placement works well but the KAC did an excellent job of keeping the paddles looking like the regular one and the placement. What I don't like about the KAC is the QR points at the back. I prefer the PWS buffer having those. I also don't like the "Stoner Rifle" roll mark. The price is also about $200 high.

Now if LMT had the same ambi bolt and mag without the QR points and at the lesser price point well we wouldn't be discussing this. I'd have that lower in a heart beat. I could see this happening considering the secretive relationship those two companies seem to have. The LMT lower on the MWS has the KAC ambi mag release. It's the same lower just without the ambi bolt release.

I still think looks wise the Hera will match that upper nicely though. Function wise it will be good. For a future rifle prototype it should be cool. If adapted for M4 replacement I suspect lower development will continue with something like the KAC being standard.

Keep in mind I can always move the Hera lowers to other uppers later. Have to love the AR for this. Plus it effectively grows your collection whether you want it to or not. Oh I have an extra lower better get a new upper. Hmm new upper need a matching lower. How the heck did I end up with 20 ARs? You know that's how it goes. :)
 
Plus it effectively grows your collection whether you want it to or not. Oh I have an extra lower better get a new upper. Hmm new upper need a matching lower. How the heck did I end up with 20 ARs? You know that's how it goes. :)

Testify brother! My last 3 came about in that exact scenario........ :)
 
Gonna breath a bit of life back into this thread...

I've done some more digging on the AX556.

Does ANYONE have any experience or hands-on time with these? I'm a fan of the concept, based on what I can glean from the interwebs.

As I slowly build this rifle, half of which remains in my mind admittedly, I figure I might as well go all the way in the ambi department and this seems like a full step in that direction. As far as I can tell, irunguns will be my only means of procuring this lower.
 
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