Turkeyslayer 1300
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- Location
- Russell, Ontario
Who sells combo guns?
- Thread starter westshtr
- Start date
- Location
- Steel Town and The Peg
I had two Savage 24 30-30 /20ga and never again.Neither had remotely regulated barrels hitting within a yard of one another at 20 yards!POS On the other hand a 24 old/quality made Savage .410/.22 I shoot skeet,Huns and pigeons with out to 30 yards no problem...........Harold
You would think Savage would take a couple laser bore sighters and regulate them before soldering?Personally wouldn't own any combo gun in a non-rimmed case.Will never know why they were never made in 45-70 or .303 British? A 28ga lower would be nice come to think of it for grouse...................a guy can dream.
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
Interesting , I have a friend who has a Brno in 308OVER 12, and another with one that is 7X57R OVER 12 - yours has the rifle barrel underneath the 12 bore!You can buy a Brno model 802 in 12 gauge over:
30-06 (like mine)
308
270
I let mine go a few months ago on a straight trade. There are deals out there, just keep looking.
Cat
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
Actually , some of the Savages were made by Tikka/Valmet and are very good quality rifles.
Cat
- Location
- Steel Town and The Peg
Interesting , I have a friend who has a Brno in 308OVER 12, and another with one that is 7X57R OVER 12 - yours has the rifle barrel underneath the 12 bore!
Cat
The new Brno's have the shotgun barrel positioned over the rifle barrel. I really don't think it matters. It came with a factory test target that showed the sights were adjusted for the rifle barrel anyway. Here's how it groups (from a new barrel) at 25 meters using the irons and my aging eyes:
Clearly some effort was made to align both barrels. The non-adjustable connector rib maintains rigidity and regulates POI.
The older BRNO combo's expressed in there manual that slugs were not to be used in these guns(BRNO 300 series as well as the BRNO 500 series). What model is yours that you can shoot slugs out of if I may ask? I don't know if it would hurt my barrel on either combo of mine, but I will not take the chance as I could not replace either of them. cheers Dale Z!
- Location
- Steel Town and The Peg
Hi Dale. Brno model 802. Safe to throw anything down the pipe.
I am a fan of the Savage 24. Currently I have 22Mag/410, 22LR/410, 223/20ga. The last was rechambered by a previous owner.
I have had the 30/30 over 12 but as others have said the barrels were seriously out of alignment. For these guns the only good ones are those that have no space between the barrels.
I have had the 30/30 over 12 but as others have said the barrels were seriously out of alignment. For these guns the only good ones are those that have no space between the barrels.
Depending on your budget their are a ton of comapnies still making combis and drillings. Combis are quite a lot cheaper and a good 7x57 over 12 gauge can be had for around $1300.
Tradex is a great place to start, they carry a few and can order anything you want. Wilf at Bilozir in Alberta is another good source.
Shooting Edge in Calgary carries the FAIR line of combi guns at a good price for what they are.
Elwood Epps will get you whatever you want
Used ones are a very good deal, and realtively easy to find if you look around a bit. Prophet River in Alberta will import any gun you like for about $200 and shipping so whether you find the gun in the US, Europe or whatever it adds little cost to get it here. There are some very good deals on used drillings and combis in Europe, much cheaper than Canadian or US prices.
Tradex is a great place to start, they carry a few and can order anything you want. Wilf at Bilozir in Alberta is another good source.
Shooting Edge in Calgary carries the FAIR line of combi guns at a good price for what they are.
Elwood Epps will get you whatever you want
Used ones are a very good deal, and realtively easy to find if you look around a bit. Prophet River in Alberta will import any gun you like for about $200 and shipping so whether you find the gun in the US, Europe or whatever it adds little cost to get it here. There are some very good deals on used drillings and combis in Europe, much cheaper than Canadian or US prices.
You can get a brand new baikal combo at lebarons for under 600... H and R and new england firearms also has a combo I believe
- Location
- Saskatchewan
Combination guns are frustrating until you spend a lot of money. I have owned several made by Savage, A springfield scout, a Valmet-Savage, a Valmet, and a Brno. All of the Savage made guns had problems with function and regulation. The Valmet guns functioned better but were very poor to handle an they did not fit me well. They were clumsy to use with rimless rifle cartridges.
I now own a Heym in 16 ga. over .222, and a Merkel in 16 ga. over 7x57R. They work reliably and are very accurate, they fit me and feel wonderful to handle. But they cost about four to six times what the others do. It requires fine engineering and hand craftsmanship to make a combination gun that works well. You really do get what you pay for.
I now own a Heym in 16 ga. over .222, and a Merkel in 16 ga. over 7x57R. They work reliably and are very accurate, they fit me and feel wonderful to handle. But they cost about four to six times what the others do. It requires fine engineering and hand craftsmanship to make a combination gun that works well. You really do get what you pay for.
(Bold and underline is mine) With that I fully agree. If I were going to buy a cheaper combi, I would make sure it is one that has the barrels seperated and the adjustment ability to manually regulate the shotgun barrel to the rifle barrel. On any soldered barrel gun, you will not get good performing well regualted guns new for under $1300, unless you get REALLY lucky.
I think everything is relative... I tried the new baikal 22lr over 20 gauge for grouse this year and loved it... But that being said, with a 22 and iron sights I was only expecting to reach out 50 yards at most... Finding grouse on deadfalls and stumps or rabbits in brushpiles... I also found the fit and finish more than ample... I would actually classify the wood as nice
Superbrad
Your Baikal should be one of the ones that has the seperated, non-soldered barrels and most of the Baikals I have seen have an adjustment rig right before the fore end starts that should allow you to get the shotgun barrel with shot or slugs to shoot pretty close to the same point of impact as the rifle at both 50 and 100 yards (slug) using the iron sights. The Baikals are one of the few relatively inexpensive combis that are well enough designed to be a truly viable lower cost option. The Savages, Valmets etc were almost all soldered barrels and the regulation of them cannot be adjusted.
Your Baikal should be one of the ones that has the seperated, non-soldered barrels and most of the Baikals I have seen have an adjustment rig right before the fore end starts that should allow you to get the shotgun barrel with shot or slugs to shoot pretty close to the same point of impact as the rifle at both 50 and 100 yards (slug) using the iron sights. The Baikals are one of the few relatively inexpensive combis that are well enough designed to be a truly viable lower cost option. The Savages, Valmets etc were almost all soldered barrels and the regulation of them cannot be adjusted.
