Why 6.5 Creedmore?
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You stated that the 6.5 Creedmoor is the ballistic twin of the 260 Rem (see post #58: It has exactly the same bullet performance, bullet weight, selection, style, velocity, same magazine size, bolt face, etc. EVERYTHING. How is one "better" than the other?) and I agree.
However, the Creed does this with less powder and in a smaller package that is easier to fit in SA magazine. The lower powder charge and more efficient case design will lead to a slightly longer barrel life. Some would also argue that the lower powder charge could lead to less recoil but I am not 100% sure I buy that but the thought is out there. The long neck and OAL of the creed will also allow you to chase the lands for a longer period of time while still being able to effectively mag feed. Better accuracy could also be inferred as the long neck could help probably align the bullet with the bore but again that is probably more of an academic argument than one that would show up on paper.
You now have one tiny reason as to why the Creed is better - slightly better barrel life.
OK So maybe it did - So What difference does that make ? Its STILL prob the BEST 6.5 cal 2.8 " action cartridge there is -So why all the HATE :confused :
Cheers RJ
I think it is - In the last 3 years of competition (PRS style) I have shot 6.5X55, 6.5X47, 6XC, and 6mmBR. From an accuracy standpoint non of the cartridges gave me an edge over the other and my Swede still holds my all time record for smallest 5rd group (.154") but there are trade offs with each that matter to someone.
If you already have a 260 stay 260 (or x47 or what have you) but if you are getting into the game, jumping on the Creedmoor bandwagon makes a lot of sense. Even if some of that was driven by marketing. I have seen Creedmoor ammo at every gun store I have been too - the other chamberings not so much.
Hey stop stealing my ideas. That's my plan when my 308 target rifle barrel gets warn out.
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That's an eye opener.
My 260 rounds loaded fairly long have plenty of room, even after about 5000 rounds and loading longer, in my AI mags. So that is looking for an answer.
The same bullet at the same velocity will wear the barrel exactly the same. Depending on a few factors, the throat may be affected, but not the barrel, so looking for a question. So no, that is not better.
Accuracy, already spoken to here by others, subjective, but let me tell you, my 260 is extremely accurate. Even with a jerk on the trigger, out to 800m is .5 moa. For some reason my 100-200 isn't anything to write home about.
As another knowledgeable member here has mentioned a couple times, marketing to the fish. And they've hooked a few.
I hear back and forth that the 6.5 creed is not great for hunting, however the light recoil seems attractive, perhaps better chance of accurate shot placement.
What game would be this calibre's limit? Deer up to 300-400 yards? Elk at 100 yards? I read that the 6.5 Swede for moose was done at close range while driving them with hounds.
308 and 30-06 are compared quite closely, what would be the 6.5 creedmore's comparable traditional/classic short action calibre? Is it a less powerful 308? I'm not familiar with the 260, mostly 270 win, 308, 30-06 and Win Mags in my area.
Also, I see a lot of creedmore rifles that come with muzzle breaks. Why is that, given that they have less recoil already?
What game would be this calibre's limit? Deer up to 300-400 yards? Elk at 100 yards? I read that the 6.5 Swede for moose was done at close range while driving them with hounds.
308 and 30-06 are compared quite closely, what would be the 6.5 creedmore's comparable traditional/classic short action calibre? Is it a less powerful 308? I'm not familiar with the 260, mostly 270 win, 308, 30-06 and Win Mags in my area.
Also, I see a lot of creedmore rifles that come with muzzle breaks. Why is that, given that they have less recoil already?
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I likely would not use it on anything bigger than deer/elk not too far out. It, like my old 6.5 x 55 would be devastating on ground hogs. OK for coyotes too; bit heavy for fox.
Muzzle breaks are all the rage, you are not cool unless you have one... but a good one should reduce muzzle jump, and help you get a quicker second shot... but according to the lore and legend surrounding the 6.5 CM; you will never need the second shot!!
From what I have heard, this caliber is so versatile;
Question: What will it do?
Answer: If you don't want it to suck eggs, keep it away from the hen-house!
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Plenty of guys are killing game farther then those distances you have given. Heck goes are even using 7mm-08 for elk at longer distances.
AS for muzzle brakes the few guys I know that run them on smaller calibers is to see impacts or miss'. That is why I run on on my 7mm-08 and truth be told I would run on on anything bigger then a 223 now. You get all the benefit of a bigger round with recoil of a smaller one.
Been thinking of getting a 6.5 creedmoor as a Christmas present to myself. The Mossberg patriot is on for $350 and is already in my cart waiting for me to buy it. Would like to try it with the Winchester expedition ammo that claim a ballistic coefficient of .719. Just not sure if I need another deer rifle and have never owned a Mossberg but hate passing on a bargain. Decisions
Cabelas has the savage in either 6.5 or 308 on sale (100 off) overall a better choice
Seconded! I refuse to purchase a second Mossberg.
The Creedmore is the king of the 6.5 in short action rifle ( U.S. market ). The .260 was the first attempt . the Swede is the king of the medium action . The 6.5x55 cartrige fit perfectly in my Tikka and I can get the good stuff from Lapua !!!
Muzzle brakes are used on the smaller calibers (6.5, 6mm, etc) so that you can spot your bullet trace and see your impacts.
In some shooting competitions you don't have a spotter to tell you where you are hitting and you are under a time constraint.
I have watched my bullet trace and spotted my own impacts out to 1500 meters when conditions allow..........
As far as this caliber debate goes, pick a caliber and stick with it. Become proficient with it..........
I personally love the .260 Rem..........I push a 139 gr. Lapua Scenar at 2930 fps out pf my PGWDTI Coyote and it is a "fricken laser"......
YMMV.
Muzzle brakes are used on the smaller calibers (6.5, 6mm, etc) so that you can spot your bullet trace and see your impacts.
In some shooting competitions you don't have a spotter to tell you where you are hitting and you are under a time constraint.
I have watched my bullet trace and spotted my own impacts out to 1500 meters when conditions allow..........
As far as this caliber debate goes, pick a caliber and stick with it. Become proficient with it..........
I personally love the .260 Rem..........I push a 139 gr. Lapua Scenar at 2930 fps out pf my PGWDTI Coyote and it is a "fricken laser"......
YMMV.
OK that makes sense about the brake now. I've been thinking of getting a 6.5 creed for a light recoil deer gun... But maybe I should just get muzzle brake for my 30-06...
Anybody know of a good muzzle brake for Ruger American? the original doesn't have barrel thread like the RA preds
