Why all the hate with 6.5 Creedmoor

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Over the past couple years I've seen plenty of videos talking bad about this cartridge while the numbers are reflective of how effective it is at hunting and long diistance shooting. We all know the best firearm and cartridge is the one we are all efficient in and how important a well placed shot is along with shooting within your means or with innrhe means of your bullet.

Along with videos and articles talking about how bad the bullet is, I've also seen videos and articles talking about how great it is even though 6.5 bullets have been around since the late 1800's.

What's the deal? Happy with your purchases? Some experience and stories are always appreciated .
 
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Companies and their retailers are always trying to sell you something. Killing an animal with a bullet isn’t rocket science.
 
Nothing wrong with the 6.5 Creedmor but it doesn't do ANYTHING that the 6.5x55 Swedish does and it has been around for over 120 years. An exercise in marketing but I guess you could say that about most new cartridges introduced in the last 50 years. We all (including me) like to have something different and no fault in that.
 
well while at a gun store the other day a employee there told me the canadian army should just get new hi powers, the new polymer stuff would fail in the cold north. look some people just don t do change well. I hunted with 308 for years. it worked fine since I have never shot past 200 yards. but now I like to go to the range and play, 6.5 is nice and flat and I hit out to 600. I could probably do that with the 308? But I just wanted to try something different, and I do not have to work hard at it. 600 yds is my range max. change is good donkeys, lol
 
If you were not into the 6.5x55 prior to the 6.5CM it may seem marvelous.
I like the 6mmCM more, it makes a little more sense as there were no real fast twist production 6mm's available before it. Case capacity is good for the 115's, case capacity for the 6.5cm is a little low for 155's.
The 6.5PRC is a decent new 6.5 cartridge.
 
Danielbear22 said:
Over the past couple years I've seen plenty of videos talking bad about this cartridge while the numbers are reflective of how effective it is at hunting and long diistance shooting. We all know the best firearm and cartridge is the one we are all efficient in and how important a well placed shot is along with shooting within your means or with innrhe means of your bullet.

Along with videos and articles talking about how bad the bullet is, I've also seen videos and articles talking about how great it is even though 6.5 bullets have been around since the late 1800's.

What's the deal? Happy with your purchases? Some experience and stories are always appreciated .
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It it a a factory version of a well designed cartridge now available for everyone, not just the custom enthusiast. It is not the miracle cartridge that an extensive marketing campaign has made it out to be. A 140gr bullet at 2700 FPS is no hammer, nor is it anything that hasn’t been available for many decades. It is only a well refined tool, like a Honda Accord. An Accord is no medium duty truck, let alone a Kenworth.
 
It's not a hate, but a logistics issue with me. Expensive and hard to find ammo. These days getting ammo and components are the key to enjoying our sport. 6.5 x 55 Swede is my metric choice!.
 
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Some people hate new cartridges and want to shake their fists and rant about it.
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Actually, there isn't very much "new" about it, other than dimensions of the cartridge case.

Several cartridges out there that equal or better its performance at every level

That being the crux of the problem

That being said, IMHO it's an excellent cartridge.
 
The Creedmoors biggest advantage is factory rifles chambered in it have a fast twist rate, if you build custom any other chambering can have the same advantage :)
 
My understanding was that a lot of its technical success (outside of marketing) was due to:
- Standard twist rate for the longer projectiles
- tighter chamber dimensions and tolerances that allow every gun builder to produce a more accurate gun because the factory match ammo aligns with the tighter chamber requirements/design.

The problem with the .308 and other older cartridges is that their chamber dimensions can vary a lot more and that each gun manufacture has more leeway to either make it tighter or looser and it still qualifies as a .308 chamber; whereas, the 6.5 creed chambers are more consistent with tighter specs. I understand this is also why you will find very accurate 6.5 creed guns from pretty much all factory gun makers. Obviously custom .308 or custom anything will get you super tight chambers and shoot the match ammo super well, though the tighter standards of 6.5 allow it to have a higher minimum standard for the cheaper factory guns, and reduces the stacking tolerances problem of chamber dimensions and factory ammo.

I'm no gunsmith, this is just what i have read on the topic from people far smarter than me...
 
Since I have the 6.5 mm area well-covered, I resisted buying a 6.5CM for some time.
After all, a 260 Remington, 6.5x55 Swede, 6.5x55AI and a 264 Win Mag pretty well
have most of what one could possibly need.

But, of course, a true "gunnut" is always curious, and I certainly am no exception.
I bought one, sold it, then bought another. The one I now have is a HB 1-8" unit, and
it is a very respectable shooter. But of course, gives up velocity to all of the above
mentioned chamberings. My most accurate 6.5 is the 6.5x55AI. It sports a 26", 1-8T
Lothar-Walther barrel, and has shot under 6" at 1000 yards.

I will be interested in seeing how my 6.5CM does beyond 600 yards.

The Creedmoor seems to be easy to find accurate loads for. I have tried several combos
with 139/140 grain bullets. All shot well. It will probably hang around, since the up-front
press was extensive, citing many virtues, whether true or not. :) Dave.
 
The positive.....it's spun cartridge development away from more powder/power to high bc bullets. The prc family, 6.8 western, even a different way of thinking about AR cartridges and.benchrest.

The bad.....people think it's some miracle, do all caliber. For hunting, there is a.limit to wounding and game performance with small projectiles. Something like a 148gr 6.5 just doesn't have the mass of a 30cal 210+gr bullet.
 
The hype is the issue, it was the new hot cartridge. Everybody was so in love with it that anything else(mainly the 308)was straight up garbage. I think the 7mmPRC and the rest of the prc family will be the ones to dethrone the Creedmoor as the new hot stuff.

The 7mmPRC depending on barrel life and ballistic performance will probably be the next long range hunting/precision chambering, the .284's are the hottest thing amongst the F class shooters and proven in the hunting world so if the speeds are good it will definitely take over. Then you'll have the same b#$%@ing you currently have between the 308 crowd and 6.5creed. This time it will be the 6.5creed people complaining that the 7mmPRC isn't that special.
 
I was at the range one day and another member even said that there are hardly any 6.5 reload components available. with all the new cartridges that came out in the last 5 years, I can see why.
 
6.5 creed feeds in a semi auto better than anything before it. People seem to forget that. Also fits in an AR10 length mag.
 
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