Why are seasons so short in Ontario?

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I spoke with the MNR about deer tags and the officer told me about different areas where "There are too many deer" and they sell additional seals. Well it seems the rifle season here for deer is extremely short. Has anyone ever found out why our season is so short?

Here is Nova Scotia's seasons (I'm from NS so thats what I have to compare it to) And for the record I've seen MANY more deer in Ontario than I've ever seen in Nova Scotia.


Black Bear

Hunting
SEPTEMBER 10 TO DECEMBER 1, EXCLUDING SUNDAYS
Bag Limit One (1) bear. Note: During the period September 10 to October 25, hunters are permitted to hunt only at bait sites that have been registered with the local DNR office.

Snaring
OCTOBER 1 TO NOVEMBER 7, INCLUDING SUNDAYS
Bag Limit One (1) bear Open only to Residents with a valid Fur Harvester Certificate. To obtain a Bear Snaring Stamp, a person must be a resident of Nova Scotia, 16 years of age or older and must be certified as a qualified Furharvester.

Attention Bear Hunters!

To prevent possible trichinosis, (a parasitic infection), bear meat should be throughly cooked before it is consumed by humans or pets.

White-tailed Deer

BAG LIMIT IS ONE (1) FOR THE CALENDER YEAR FOR ALL HUNTERS. DEER HUNTING IS LIMITED TO ANTLERED DEER, EXCEPT FOR THOSE HUNTERS HAVING A VALID ANTLERLESS DEER HUNTING STAMP AFFIXED TO THEIR DEER HUNTING LICENCE.

For definitions of "ANTLERED" and ANTLERLESS DEER" see page 37 of the 2007 Summary of Regulations. Also see pages 56-57 for a map of Deer Management Zones or visit http://www.gov.ns.ca/natr/draws/deerdraw

General Open Season
OCTOBER 26 TO DECEMBER 1, EXCLUDING SUNDAYS.
This season extends from last Friday in October to and including the first Saturday in December. (excluding Sundays )

Special Open Season for Bowhunting Deer
SEPTEMBER 29 TO OCTOBER 25, AND DECEMBER 3 TO DECEMBER 8, EXCLUDING SUNDAYS
To hunt deer with a bow and arrow, a hunter must be certified as a qualified Bowhunter, must have a valid Deer Hunting Stamp, and must purchase a Bow Stamp.

Youth Season for Hunting Deer
OCTOBER 12TH AND OCTOBER 20TH, EXCLUDING SUNDAY
During the period October 12 - 20, persons 16 and 17 years of age may hunt deer with a firearm, provided they are certified to hunt with a firearm, hold a valid deer hunting licence and are under the immediate supervision of a person over the age of 18 who is certified to hold a deer hunting licence. For definition of “immediate supervision” see page 60 of the 2007 Summary of Regulations.

Moose
FIRST - SEPTEMBER 24 TO SEPTEMBER 29, EXCLUDING SUNDAYS
SECOND - OCTOBER 1 TO OCTOBER 6, EXCLUDING SUNDAYS
THIRD - DECEMBER 11 TO DECEMBER 13
 
robinhood said:
I am 7.62mm (Excalibur Crossbow) but I'm just curious why rifle season is so short.
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Pansy A$$ed, Liberal Voting, Latte Sucking Gimps, that have no idea of what they are talking about! Or some Bullcrap like that. Sorry if that is not what you wanted to hear, but the best idea is harrass your provincial MP more, I send a couple letters a month.:D

7.62mm
 
That's not short. Here in AB most areas are Nov 1 to Nov 30 and some only let you hunt Thurs-Sat during that time. Far north is open from Sep 1 - Nov 30 (but only one tag) and the mountains from Sep 17(or 24) to Nov 30 (again one tag). But in the areas that only have a November season getting your deer is like going to get groceries if you've got access and permission to an alfalfa field.
 
In my zone (12B) the season on deer and moose (rifle) runs October 06 to December 15. The seasons are short in the south I believe to enable more efficent enforcement by CO's. In their way of looking at it it is easier to man effective patrols and look into trespass complaints over a short period than a long period. The crown land up north stops the trespass issue hence the longer season.

cheers Darryl
 
"...seen MANY more deer..." There's miles and miles and miles of corn and soy bean fields.
Snaring Yogi is illegal in Ontario.
It's not very long ago that the firearm deer season was, at most, the first two weeks of November and not in all areas of Ontario. Some places had three days to 1 week.
The bow season opened around the 15th of October, shut down for the rifle season, then opened again until 31 December. And you were allowed one deer only. Even if you had a doe tag. Not one doe and one buck. One deer.
The second tag is a relatively recent thing. I suspect the insurance companies are getting tired of paying out millions in road kill claims.
 
I think that it has to do with game and human populations. Most of the areas that have high deer populations, also have high human populations. The 'southern rural folk' only have to tolerate gun hunters for a few weeks.
 
I agree that the Ontario gun seasons seem too short - nothing would please me more than being able to gun hunt to the end of December (although I do bow hunt so my season is about 3 months long). However, there are good and bad things about every place - in Ontario we can party hunt for deer and moose so even if you get your deer you can continue to hunt as long as there is at least 1 tag left in the party. If I understand correctly, in NS, you get your deer and go home regardless of what tags the rest of the party has.
Of course, I could be wrong about that, but that is what I've been told by one of our bunch who flies up from the Cape each year to hunt with us.
 
The moose season is too long. 6 weeks, is a month to long.


2 weeks is plenty. All a 6 week season does is give the poachers more time in the bush. When I say poachers I mean the guys who drive around everyday for 6 weeks looking for a moose. Once a moose is found it is shot and killed. Then the poacher heads to town to find one of his buddies who has a tag for it to bring back to the kill site to tag it.

If the season was only 2 weeks at least it would just be hunters who were successful and I would bet dollars to donuts our moose population would improve because of it.
 
More like 10 weeks where I hunt- area 8. But shortening the season would mean only poeple who can take the 2 weeks off would be successful (ie "401ers") and the local people who live and work in the area would be SOL. I'm not prepared to say all road hunters are poachers or vice versa - in North Bay, Dryden, or anywhere else. Besides which, road hunting is a real PITA, hard on the back and the vehicles, and at least in my experience far less productive than getting on the ground and calling.
 
I believe that the MNR bases their % of Antlerless tags on the fact that not all will be filled in 2 weeks of rifle. If the seasons were longer, they would give out less Antlerless tags. 6 or 1/2 dozen?

They don't want 98% of the tags filled, hence the short season.
 
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