Why are seasons so short in Ontario?
- Thread starter robinhood
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2 weeks gun for deer is lots long.
Any longer & livers would be bad on camp hunters
Our camp is usually only a couple deer short of completely filling our tags anyway
in fact last year we were on bucks only for mature hunters for the last three days of both weeks to give young guys a chance before we ran out of tags.I realize it seems short if your a w-end hunter but then if you won't take a week to hunt you can't be that serious a hunter.
BigUglyMan
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- Location
- New Scotland
I'm not reading the whole thread, but did someone already suggest the cause is the fact that Ontario eats ass?
NWT - Caribou from Sept 1 to April 31.
- Moose from Sept 15 to Dec 31.
NWT - Caribou from Sept 1 to April 31.
- Moose from Sept 15 to Dec 31.
- Location
- WMU248 near Edmonton
4 weeks is plenty long in the zone I hunt, and many others too.
If you move around a bit its not a porblem finding something to hunt from about mid September to end November, but you'll run out of deer tags before the season is over
If you move around a bit its not a porblem finding something to hunt from about mid September to end November, but you'll run out of deer tags before the season is over
The short (two week) season for deer is really annoying, especially since I usually have commitments on one of the two available weekends. The addition of Sunday hunting sure helps, but at best makes it a two or three day proposition.
With lots of places not having enough hunters for all of the antlerless tags that are available, I think that we should look to add at least one more week, followed preferably by a fourth. That would easily give alot of working people who cannot take a week off anywhere between four to six days hunting, even if they are not free for every weekend. There seems to be enough deer around to allow for the harvest of a couple tens of thousands of animals, plus added opportunities for another 50-100 000 hunters. Most of the urbanite cottagers close up on the Thanksgiving weekend, so it should not be too hard to justify giving the hunters their turn.
It's vital to increase the hunting opportunities to keep the sport alive in Ontario over the long run. While the short seasons are fine for people who've grown up in hunting families and adjusted their lives to it, they also keep many people from taking up the sport, since it's hard to fit into their schedules and often does not justify the cost of a rifle, extra clothing and other equipment. While there's more than enough deer to provide hunting for our growing population, without introducing more people to the sport, we'll certainly see more restrictions on hunting and less money for wildlife management.
Cheers,
Frank
With lots of places not having enough hunters for all of the antlerless tags that are available, I think that we should look to add at least one more week, followed preferably by a fourth. That would easily give alot of working people who cannot take a week off anywhere between four to six days hunting, even if they are not free for every weekend. There seems to be enough deer around to allow for the harvest of a couple tens of thousands of animals, plus added opportunities for another 50-100 000 hunters. Most of the urbanite cottagers close up on the Thanksgiving weekend, so it should not be too hard to justify giving the hunters their turn.
It's vital to increase the hunting opportunities to keep the sport alive in Ontario over the long run. While the short seasons are fine for people who've grown up in hunting families and adjusted their lives to it, they also keep many people from taking up the sport, since it's hard to fit into their schedules and often does not justify the cost of a rifle, extra clothing and other equipment. While there's more than enough deer to provide hunting for our growing population, without introducing more people to the sport, we'll certainly see more restrictions on hunting and less money for wildlife management.
Cheers,
Frank
Well at least if I take a week of to hunt, & shoot a deer first day, I don't have to sit around jerking off like you guys !
What's up with no party hunting??
With attitudes like I see on here all the time I can see why!
You couldn't get along with other people without attempting to offend them
- Location
- AB foothills
Really, WTF are you talking about here? You post comments like this over and over. I think before you said that you could shoot 5 deer in a season, maybe more than that, I can't remember. Thats good, you are a meat hunter and like to git er done in one planned week, nothing wrong with that.
Do you have any clue how many big game tags a single hunter can buy over the counter not including draws in Alberta? win70 is from Alberta so that is what I am basing this on and your comment towards him.
For instance, this is what I bought at the beginning of the season:
-2 black bear tags(1 I shot this past spring
)-3 whitetail tags(I can get more if need be in certain areas if I wanted more, which I don't)
-1 elk tag
-1 mule deer tag
-1 trophy sheep tag
- and if I wanted and actually liked hunting moose I could buy a general tag for a few areas up north.
These are general, over the counter tags that any resident hunter can buy. Most of the guys I hunt with buy all these same tags(or close to it). So I guess you could say we party hunt, just in a different way.
Now lets say hypothetically I received all of the draws I myself put in for:
-1 trophy antelope
-1 goat
-1 non trophy sheep
-1 moose, which I don't put in for but everyone I know does
- There are others as well but if I got them they would interfere a bit with some of my general tags, no big deal.
(This list is just off of the top of my head, I am sure some of the AB guys might straighten me up if I made any mistakes or think of more that I missed)
There are too many draws to list that everyone in Alberta can put in for. I myself can and do hunt for 7-8 months of a year and love every minute of it. So if you really think that your week long deer shooting spree impresses anyone out this way, it doesn't. I'm serious.
In the end, once your week long
is over, many of us westerners will be still out hunting and enjoying the outdoors(which is what it is all about) while your sitting at home eating bullet riddled deer steaks shot with your semi and jerking off.
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In the day, the seasons were matched to the reproductive cycle of deer, the numbers in the winter yards, and the success of the spring fawning, and to other recreation use patterns in the same country. Actual wildlife management was carried out and we had a good balance of deer, range and people in most places. Since Mike Harris (and a bit before, actually), wildlife management at OMNR has gone to hell in a handbasket, mostly because all of the good wildlife biologists have left or retired, and now there is no real knowledge base left, and we have clowns like McGuinty, who doesn't know/doesn't care about wildlife management anyway, because the GTA wants starving deer to look at through their cottage windows.
Ontario's deer herd will continue to be mismanaged until CWD blows it up, and then nobody will get to hunt deer.
Ontario's deer herd will continue to be mismanaged until CWD blows it up, and then nobody will get to hunt deer.
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