Why Cant I shoot dead center ? (pic)

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HI guys

Im having shooting issue. I Cant manage to hit the target dead center I must doing something wrong. Now how do I correct this

15 yards standing position fixed Sight Browning HP 9mm
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Lower left seems to be were all my bullets goes. No matter what I do they go Lower left. I think my groups are correct and constant, only problem is that I aim the center of the target
I would love to see the same pattern but where I aim ,in the center.

Ive seen Todd Jarrett Video on youtube and use the same grip method, I also only position only the nail portion of my finger on the trigger. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50-plo48)

I dont know where to start maybe you can help me putting the bullets in the center or at least all over the target.

I am right handed , and I gettign the same kind of pattern with my .22

Thanks
 
Ah did you notice that you also shoot low to the left, that is very common for a right handed shooter. Always focus on the front site, five shot a target, review your griping, posture every target. Don't use those expensive one, go home depot and get some paint sample card. There are a lot of different colour for you to choose from, some good at rainly day and some good for sunny. stick the paint sample card at the middle of a A4 size paper. Do not stick more than one card on the paper because it will take away your focus. a gentleman show me this way and I got great improvement within the sameday.
Anyhow don't take away all the sample card as quite a few of our shooting buddy also use them.

Trigun
 
Unless the sights are off, you are probably pulling the gun low & to the left as you pull the trigger.

You need to practice pulling the trigger straight back and firm up your grip . This is a common problem with new shooters. Practice .
 
At least you are getting a group. This is me @ 25yds, 9mm and 22. Note there are no hits in the center of the target. That was not intentional.

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colinjw said:
Unless the sights are off, you are probably pulling the gun low & to the left as you pull the trigger.

You need to practice pulling the trigger straight back and firm up your grip . This is a common problem with new shooters. Practice .
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+1. What is happening is that your grip is changing as you pull the trigger. You need to decouple your trigger finger from the other fingers, so that your grip stays exactly the same as your trigger finger pulls on the trigger.

Use the correction chart posted and lots of dry firing to smooth out your trigger pull so that the gun doesn't move as the trigger breaks.

Mark
 
Pistol Groups

Guys,

Shooting a pistol well is harder than it appears.

A couple items I would suggest first off is dry fire practice. Try practicing dry firing with a empty casing on the front of the slide of your pistol. Squeeze while concentrating on your front sight on the target. Repeat, repeat, repeat....

Second is get closer to your target to start. Starting at 25 yards for a new shooter to me is just to hard and will not instill confidence. Start off at 5 to 7 yards and as you become more proficient, move back 5 yards. This might take you several trips to the range.

Third, pistol shooting is a sport that takes a lot of practice. Use it or loose it. Make sure you are out at least once a month to practice. Not once every year or so.

Lastly, there are many instuctors and videos on the subject. Invest a few dollars in training. Take a training course.

I saw a guy yesterday at the range while I was watching my son shoot. He shot two boxes at 25 metres while we were there. At the end of his shooting session, he had about 12 shots on a 8x10" sheet that he had about a 3" dot on.

I don't exactly know what the purpose of the range trip for him was but nothing he did made sense. To me he was just throwing lead down range. If that is his purpose I guess he fulfilled it. One of my puposes of going to the range besides having fun is to increase my skill set or at least keep it at a proficient level. Maybe that is what he was thinking too?:D

Ammo is too expensive these days to just go and fling lead and hope that is all goes into the 3" dot 25 metres away.

Greg
 
I'm having the same south-west grouping issue so thanks for posting :) I will try some of the suggestions. I was pretty sure it was a combination of grip and flinching and this confirms it in my mind. Now to get in some practice and try and work it out. Winter is pretty much here so lots of opportunity for dry fire practice :)
 
There are some great drills at "pistol-training dot com" that can really help with both accuracy and speed. The curse of the low left group means you're intentionally 'pulling the trigger'. Try the Wall Drill (WITH AN EMPTY PISTOL FOR GOD'S SAKE) stand off from a white wall far enough back that you can raise the pistol to a shooting position. Align the sights and press back the trigger while watching the sights - keep doing this until you can make the pistol click without the sights moving.
 
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volks_r_us said:
HI guys

Im having shooting issue. I Cant manage to hit the target dead center I must doing something wrong. Now how do I correct this

15 yards standing position fixed Sight Browning HP 9mm
IMG_2568.jpg


Lower left seems to be were all my bullets goes. No matter what I do they go Lower left. I think my groups are correct and constant, only problem is that I aim the center of the target
I would love to see the same pattern but where I aim ,in the center.

Ive seen Todd Jarrett Video on youtube and use the same grip method, I also only position only the nail portion of my finger on the trigger. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50-plo48)

I dont know where to start maybe you can help me putting the bullets in the center or at least all over the target.

I am right handed , and I gettign the same kind of pattern with my .22

Thanks
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You are horking the trigger.

Squeeze slowly and gently straight back from your middle knuckle - not the one at the bottom of your finger where it joins your hand -- dont move that knuckle ---dont allow your finger to move to the left -
 
Dry fire the pistol at home to see if there is a problem with your hold or or trigger control. Take aim at a point on the wall across the room, press the trigger and see if the sights remain on target when the hammer falls. What the sights cover at the hammer fall is where the bullet goes.

If your hold and trigger control seems to be correct, you have a sight problem. IMHO the group is tolerable as I have often found it difficult to pick up the front sight on a mil spec P-35 or 1911. When you get your sight picture, normally you would attempt to center the front sight in the rear sight notch. Next time attempt to hold the right side of the front sight against the right edge of the rear sight notch, and raise the front sight slightly above the height of the rear sight, then shift your focus to your front sight for the shot. This should move your group up and to the right. If that isn't enough you could split the front sight on the right side of the notch and bring the base of the front sight up to the top of the rear sight, there isn't much front sight to work with on a milspec pistol though.
 
Most people's targets looked the same in the beginning (I started a thread just like this one). Start at 5 yards, concentrate on the front sight, and squeeze the trigger. Do that 500 times before thinking about blaming the gun.

Be sure you're not letting your eyes wander over to the grouping as it's developing on the paper. It can be difficult to stay focused on a particular point on the target as the grouping on the bottom left gets bigger and bigger.
 
As others have said:

Bring the target within 3m. Once you can punch them through the same hole where you're aiming then back it out.

Concentrate on these things:
a) grip - Don't white knuckle, don't tense up after first shot
b) sight - Only focus on your front sight, target and rear sight should be blurry
c) trigger pull - Once front sight is focused, concentrate on squeezing trigger straight back (not as easy as it sounds) without tensing your hands
d) surprise - Don't worry about the gun going off, it will. It should surprise you so your body doesn't tense up.

Two additional points:
Go slow, speed will come with muscle memory.

Get some snap caps. Have a friend load a magazine with live rounds and snap caps without you knowing which is which. You'll find out quickly if you're anticipating the shot and compensating (ie. pushing the gun).
 
volks_r_us said:
HI guys

Im having shooting issue. I Cant manage to hit the target dead center I must doing something wrong. Now how do I correct this

15 yards standing position fixed Sight Browning HP 9mm
IMG_2568.jpg


Lower left seems to be were all my bullets goes. No matter what I do they go Lower left. I think my groups are correct and constant, only problem is that I aim the center of the target
I would love to see the same pattern but where I aim ,in the center.

Ive seen Todd Jarrett Video on youtube and use the same grip method, I also only position only the nail portion of my finger on the trigger. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50-plo48)

I dont know where to start maybe you can help me putting the bullets in the center or at least all over the target.

I am right handed , and I gettign the same kind of pattern with my .22

Thanks
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if it were me, I would move the target down and to the left and keep shooting.... :)
 
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