Why can't we hunt with handguns?

gnmontey said:
Define FUDD?

I'm probably considered a FUDD. I select calibers that get the job done, appreciate fine wood stocks and high end optics.

M
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Fudds are narrow-midded, thinking only of their immediate use of firearms.
Will throw others under the bus if they have no use for a particular aspect of shooting or gun ownership.
Could be the have no use for restricteds, of semi-autos or magnum rifles. Whatever.
I know one man who is an avid handgun shooter, but he can't understand why anyone should have a CZ 858.
Narrow, closed-minded individuals. And they don't realize how dangerous they are to the shooting community.
 
trebor2880 said:
Fudds are narrow-midded, thinking only of their immediate use of firearms.
Will throw others under the bus if they have no use for a particular aspect of shooting or gun ownership.
Could be the have no use for restricteds, of semi-autos or magnum rifles. Whatever.
I know one man who is an avid handgun shooter, but he can't understand why anyone should have a CZ 858.
Narrow, closed-minded individuals. And they don't realize how dangerous they are to the shooting community.
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OK, not a FUDD then. Have an AR, pistols, some fine hunting rifles, appreciate all aspects of the sport.

Slang term for a "casual" gun owner; eg; a person who typically only owns guns for hunting or shotgun sports and does not truly believe in the true premise of the second amendment. These people also generally treat owners/users of so called "non sporting" firearms like handguns or semiautomatic rifles with unwarranted scorn or contempt.

Nope.. not me.

M
 
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trebor2880 said:
Fudds are narrow-midded, thinking only of their immediate use of firearms.
Will throw others under the bus if they have no use for a particular aspect of shooting or gun ownership.
Could be the have no use for restricteds, of semi-autos or magnum rifles. Whatever.
I know one man who is an avid handgun shooter, but he can't understand why anyone should have a CZ 858.
Narrow, closed-minded individuals. And they don't realize how dangerous they are to the shooting community.
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That reminds me of a individual I ran into at the range a few years ago. In a nutshell, he was a avid duck hunter & trap shooter but he commented to me that he couldn't care less if handguns & "machine guns" :)rolleyes:) were banned. Fudd.
 
Hunting with a handgun. I can see it now...

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shortandlong said:
be careful guys , criticism of the the law no matter how stupid it is can get you labeled as an extremist by other members
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So be it, unless they're mods. More people need to bring up the stupidity and oppression of crap we have on the books. I can think of many times that a pistol would have come in really handy while on a hunt or in the bush generally.
 
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dale622 said:
Can't really think of a reason anyone would want to hunt with a handgun... Rifle suits me just fine. I wouldn't mind however if I was allowed to carry a sidearm within the confines of my hunt camp for predator protection.
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You can't think of a single reason HEY - Oh and ONLY a rifle SUITS YOU just fine ! - BUT you won't mine carrying one for Protection though That would be all RIGHT ! Its NOT just about you ! and Well just MAYBE I and others would like to hunt down predators with one - BUT is that so much different then just protection !

Cheers RJ
 
dale622 said:
Can't really think of a reason anyone would want to hunt with a handgun... Rifle suits me just fine. I wouldn't mind however if I was allowed to carry a sidearm within the confines of my hunt camp for predator protection.
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Your second sentence flies right into the face of your first sentence.

me.....me.....me orientated IMHO.

Edit: dale622 is walking around his hunt camp with holstered 44 for predator protection 'only' but spies Mister Ptarmigan and family nearby.

Where are those darn speer shotshells huh???
 
My primary concern and I for one would love to have the opportunity to hunt with handguns is how long we are going to be allowed to keep them.
When questioned about guns & gun registry at Liberal fundraisers young Mr. Justin has stated that he would not bring back any form of long gun registry because of the cost to taxpayer, instead according to him it would be more beneficial to all concerned if certain guns deemed to be hazardous were in fact banned.

I do not like that..... sounds too much like something Wendy C. would have a hand in.....
 
StoneHorse said:
or perhaps a fudd or worst, a gun control advocate. I would like the option to choose for myself what type of firearm to use for hunting.
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Pfff I carry dangerous black and green rifles and play with explosives for my paycheck so I'm pretty far from gun control. Can I ensure a clean kill at 400m with a rifle? You bet I can. Would I trust myself to do the same at 40m with a pistol? Probably not. I Understand wanting the choice and all but come on... Rifle is a more efficient killing tool plain and simple and that's what justifies it for me.

So if you want to be that guy that tries to sneak up 20 yards from a deer to hit it with your pistol you go right ahead and put it to your MP.
 
dale622 said:
Pfff I carry dangerous black and green rifles and play with explosives for my paycheck so I'm pretty far from gun control. Can I ensure a clean kill at 400m with a rifle? You bet I can. Would I trust myself to do the same at 40m with a pistol? Probably not. I Understand wanting the choice and all but come on... Rifle is a more efficient killing tool plain and simple and that's what justifies it for me.

So if you want to be that guy that tries to sneak up 20 yards from a deer to hit it with your pistol you go right ahead and put it to your MP.
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And again, it's not whether it's something 'black or green', or, an acceptable hunting shotgun or rifle or a handgun. It's your proficiency with your personal choice of poison and used within your degree of 'ability'. Many of us into handguns are more than capeable, and not necessarily imploying sneaking techniques, of reliably taking game at 20 + yard/meter distances.
 
dale622 said:
Pfff I carry dangerous black and green rifles and play with explosives for my paycheck so I'm pretty far from gun control. Can I ensure a clean kill at 400m with a rifle? You bet I can. Would I trust myself to do the same at 40m with a pistol? Probably not. I Understand wanting the choice and all but come on... Rifle is a more efficient killing tool plain and simple and that's what justifies it for me.

So if you want to be that guy that tries to sneak up 20 yards from a deer to hit it with your pistol you go right ahead and put it to your MP.
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Whats that got to do with GUN CONTROL ? your employed by the Canadian Goverment as i read it ! - and I can't HELP you if your a Lousy shot with a pistol - maybe you just need to practice more ! This has NOTHING to do with how proficent you are with a rifle or pistol its about A stupid LAW SYSTEM ! I want to hunt with one and this has NOTHING to do with killing efficient or anything else you can DREAM up - - it has to do with what i want as a LAW abiding tax paying citizen that is born and raised in CANADA and I think A long with many others on here THAT we should be able too ! :d



Cheers RJ
 
Johnn Peterson said:
And again, it's not whether it's something 'black or green', or, an acceptable hunting shotgun or rifle or a handgun. It's your proficiency with your personal choice of poison and used within your degree of 'ability'. Many of us into handguns are more than capeable, and not necessarily imploying sneaking techniques, of reliably taking game at 20 + yard/meter distances.
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Yes it does have something to do with being effective at it's intended purpose. It has a huge part to play in ensuring a clean and painless kill!

Don't really care anymore so I'll bow out and let you guys do as you will.
 
Bottom line is... you can't hunt with a HG in good old CA because we are restricted to shooting paper with such.

As for the HG hunting controversy. It comes down to hunting ethics. Using the instrument that produces a clean one shot kill should be paramount.

M
 
dale622 said:
Pfff I carry dangerous black and green rifles and play with explosives for my paycheck so I'm pretty far from gun control. Can I ensure a clean kill at 400m with a rifle? You bet I can. Would I trust myself to do the same at 40m with a pistol? Probably not. I Understand wanting the choice and all but come on... Rifle is a more efficient killing tool plain and simple and that's what justifies it for me.

So if you want to be that guy that tries to sneak up 20 yards from a deer to hit it with your pistol you go right ahead and put it to your MP.
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I didn't mention deer or any other game, large or small. All I said was I wanted the choice of hunting using a handgun. Personally, I was thinking about grouse with .22 revolver or semi-auto.

So you don't trust yourself @ 40 meters with a pistol? Good that you know your limitations. Just for fun, regularly shoot my .22 pistols out to 100 meters, using open sights with "minute-of-deer" accuracy. I lay out trap clay targets on the berm and have a little fun. Of course I would never use a .22 LR on a deer. Now a revolver chambered in .44 magnum or .45/70 with optical sight, that would be a different story. Too bad handgun hunting is not legal in Canada.
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StoneHorse said:
I didn't mention deer or any other game, large or small. All I said was I wanted the choice of hunting using a handgun. Personally, I was thinking about grouse with .22 revolver or semi-auto.

So you don't trust yourself @ 40 meters with a pistol? Good that you know your limitations. Just for fun, regularly shoot my .22 pistols out to 100 meters, using open sights with "minute-of-deer" accuracy. I lay out trap clay targets on the berm and have a little fun. Of course I would never use a .22 LR on a deer. Now a revolver chambered in .44 magnum or .45/70 with optical sight, that would be a different story. Too bad handgun hunting is not legal in Canada.
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YUP Right on Stonehorse ! Cheers RJ
 
Stonehorse I got one of those hand cannons too and it kills me that I cannot drill a black bear or deer with it. A different skill level required to hunt with a handgun and that is what I find so challenging as hunting with a rifle now is no longer exciting to me.
 
Back in about 1961 at the age if 16 in Ontario i got a permeant to carry a handgun for the purpose of target shooting and small game hunting.As explained to me by a senior OPP officer at the time the reason for issuing the permit was for target shooting and small game hunting- that did not mean I was restricted to target shooting or small game hunting as there was no legislation restricting the use of permits once it was issued. I shot many squirrels and cottontails with about 90% head shots. At that time there were a lot of african american hunters coming into SW ontario on hunts with less than satisfactory results. By cruising the roads on the weekend you could often "give" them something to take home. In exchange the were free to donate ammunition, smokes or money to us . The were fond of head shot animals.
This was probably outside the law but we never exceeded our limits through it would have been easy to. Seemed like a good deal for us as we could afford gas and ammo for the next weekend I wish that I had saved those permits but after being transferred around the country for years the became misplaced.
Neil
 
dale622 said:
Pfff I carry dangerous black and green rifles and play with explosives for my paycheck so I'm pretty far from gun control. Can I ensure a clean kill at 400m with a rifle? You bet I can. Would I trust myself to do the same at 40m with a pistol? Probably not. I Understand wanting the choice and all but come on... Rifle is a more efficient killing tool plain and simple and that's what justifies it for me.

So if you want to be that guy that tries to sneak up 20 yards from a deer to hit it with your pistol you go right ahead and put it to your MP.
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Just to the south of us, there is a nation with about 11 times our population.

Many of those states allow handgun hunting.

They have no more concern about it then deciding if archery gear including crossbows, or primitive-traditional muzzleloading rifles/shotguns, etc are considered legal tools of harvest.
 
Dam straight ! This whole discussion is not really about how good you are with a handgun, it's about the right to pursue hunting (ethically) ! The laws in this FREE country take away far more than they give ! As long as a hunter who is proficient with a handgun, there is no reason for not having a handgun season or to include it in the rifle season ! And, like I stated before, I would love to have my handgun on my hip for solely security sake when bow hunting in the thick bush mountains of BC. There should be a board formed by hunters that can give sound ethical common sence reasons to hunting regs instead of letting politicians decide for us. I would love for our country to really be the True North Strong and FREE !
Brutus said:
Just to the south of us, there is a nation with about 11 times our population.

Many of those states allow handgun hunting.

They have no more concern about it then deciding if archery gear including crossbows, or primitive-traditional muzzleloading rifles/shotguns, etc are considered legal tools of harvest.
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