Why do hunter's need to steal?

[Fall Guy]

Why do hunter's need to steal?

I don't know but having read the amount of threads and comments that I have, (and having my 12' aluminum stolen a few years back) the theft of private property left in the field certainly appears to be rather significant and very widespread.

It sucks.

 

[Mount Sweetness]

deer hunters get jealous and territorial

 

[Kelly Timoffee]

It isn't hunters stealing, it is thieves that happen to be hunters.

Unfortunately the system has no medicine to deter these folks, the best system ,sad as it is would be some of their own medicine.Some caught stealing out in the bush would very likely not return if confronted and left the area with a limp or worse.

It is a simplistic and non humane way to do things but it is the only thing they understand.Just like touching an electrical socket, you do it till you get hurt then you stop.

 

[Boomer]

Why do hunters steal?

So I got off work early today and figured I'd go climb into one of my treestands for a couple of hours. I hike into my spot and lo and behold my stand is gone! The thieves missed two steps up in the tree but took the others, cut my cable lock and took the stand. Third one to be swiped now. Why is it that some hunter's have no respect for others, and feel the need to pilfer their equipment? I'm so friggin pissed off I don't know what I'd actually do if I caught one of these little pricks in the act.

Your title got under my skin. I get that you're pissed by the loss of your property, but to paint all hunters as thieves doesn't help our bruised image very much. A hunter is a hunter and a thief is a thief. But I hope you do find em.

 

[Superbrad]

Your title got under my skin. I get that you're pissed by the loss of your property, but to paint all hunters as thieves doesn't help our bruised image very much. A hunter is a hunter and a thief is a thief. But I hope you do find em.

What makes you so sure it's just not some anti that tore it down so you wouldn't be able to hunt?

 

[Big Game]

Your title got under my skin. I get that you're pissed by the loss of your property, but to paint all hunters as thieves doesn't help our bruised image very much. A hunter is a hunter and a thief is a thief. But I hope you do find em.

The title was meant to get under peoples skins and evoke some passionate responses. Just as a poacher isn't a hunter not many hunters are thieves it's just that the people who are supposed to be part of our hunting fraternity really bring out the worst in me when they take from their hunting "brothers".
Sure there's competition out there for a big buck or a certain spot but when a hunter(and they are hunter's) steals from a fellow hunter it's really low. Bruised image or not if it gets swept under the table it does nothing to address the situation. Posting my thoughts on here may not accomplish anything, but at least itstarts a discussion that may change someones mind. One of the other comments hit the nail on the head when they basically said that too many people today feel entitled to stuff. They don't view it as stealing but rather "finding" stuff in the bush, and feel they're entitled to take it. Just my humble opinion and rant, no offense meant to hard working, ethical hunters.

 

[Adrian J Hare]

It isn't hunters stealing, it is thieves that happen to be hunters.

Unfortunately the system has no medicine to deter these folks, the best system ,sad as it is would be some of their own medicine.Some caught stealing out in the bush would very likely not return if confronted and left the area with a limp or worse.

It is a simplistic and non humane way to do things but it is the only thing they understand.Just like touching an electrical socket, you do it till you get hurt then you stop.

Well maybe not out West , but here in Ontario they do. You never see Joe Public walking around in the middle of the woods along deer trails, its Hunters and they just can't help themselves, their on Private property and must think,, Well I'll never be back and I can use this , and way they go. This happens mostly on private lands and why ?

Because they broke a damn law to be there,, in the first place "Tresspass !" so they break the law once what the hell is another crime in one day ????

Hunters,, its sad to say ! that don't give a shot about you or your property they hunt...

 

[the spank]

A buddy of mine once stopped to help a couple guys load up their boat, motor and fishing gear on the shoreline after they had just come in from a successful evening of walleye fishing. It was right in town on an access at the end of a street that led to a public access on the lake, houses on the waters edge, street etc. A couple hours later he is at home when a knock comes to the door. It's the City cops, they were they to recover the stolen boat and motor etc he took! He just about had a coronary. Here he thought he was helping a couple guys out, turns out he had helped them load up a boat and motor they had stolen hours earlier, went fishing with and then headed home. Man was he some dumfounded and embarrassed. Thankfully he wasn't charged after it was all sorted out. Folks in the house at the end of the street had called the police after seeing him load the boat and motor in the thieves truck and reported his license number as he was last to drive away. Turned out they recognised the boat and motor as they're neighbor's that had been on the beach behind the house a few hours earlier. Takes all kinds......hope you get your gear back and that the "pukes" whatever age they are get nailed.
I once lent an entire spread of bluebill decoys to a buddy. For some reason he decided not to pick them up when he finished hunting that day because he was going to go back and hunt there the next day. Well he arrived the next day to find "MY" decoy spread had migrated from the area. He was none too happy when he had to replace my spread but it sure taught him a lesson. Thieves are in all walks of life, many hunt and fish and will take what they can steal. That's the nature of thieves. I would love to catch one in the act just once!!!

 

[Shep546]

All the older gents who are blaming the new generation.

Don't be so quick to forget who raised them.

 

[kamlooky]

I guess if one steals, that in itself is an act of bullyism.
I have always been a firm believer of bullying a bully.
The limp thing has a nice ring to it.
Most bullies understand pain.
I was out last week hunting and ended up at a lake a fish at least
once a year.
On the shore was a decent looking canoe.
It sure raised my eyebrows?
Hayya canoe, what's up?
How did you get here?
Did you get stolen and used and left out to get cold?
The gang was drunk and left you behind?
Ohh well, just hang in there, someone will take you home no doubt.
I just despise thieves dressed up as hunters.
And the activities that go with them.
I'm not going to blame the younger generation either.
I have hunted with some well bred young stock.

Edit.......found the photos.....

The lake.



Mr. Blue Canoe.......

 

[07blackwater]

People,in general, just don't have enough respect for each other any more. That's all.

 

[straightshooter]

In order to steal my stand the a**hole(s), would have first had to find the location and then go and find some bolt cutters to cut the lock,that is unless they drive around with a set on their ATV for just such an occasion. I have to agree with some of the comments in here about a lack of respect today for other people no matter which generation! I know that I was taught as a hunter to respect others stands, I wouldn't even think to climb up and use someone else's stand without permission, much less take it. I guess I was brought up believing that hunters were like a brotherhood and we respected each other and our sport, not so much anymore. I guess I'll keep buying and putting up treestands and the punks will keep stealing them until I get lucky and catch one, then........ I'm not sure what my reaction will be!

Duct tape 'em naked to a tree and leave a note on their truck as to the 1/4 section were they can be found. By the time their friends find them, they should have learned their lesson. (if only we could)

 

[straightshooter]

BIG sign attached to tree with tree stand in it reads:

"WARNING Tree stand protected from property theft by boobie traps. For your own safety LEAVE THE AREA IMMEDIATELY. DO NOT touch the tree. DO NOT climb the tree. DO NOT touch any part of the equipment. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. (Survivors will be prosecuted)."


Might deter the odd scum bag.

 

[Robert22]

WE are seeing a generation raised by the "Me first " mentality. We've been through 20 plus years of telling every kid that they can have everything they want and that life is about taking care of what you want because it may hurt your precious self esteem. When I was raised it was always about others and respecting them first. What followed was the complete opposite.

We have an entire generation where a large proportion ( not all obviously) see nothing wrong with taking a tree stand or a camera out in the woods. I want that and I'll just take it. There is zero consideration that it may be someone elses and the owner may not appreciate it being taken. In my profession I often deal with young people who deliberately tell false hoods in order to further their own agenda. I have been told that I cannot call them a liar because that will hurt their feelings and it is too harsh I my day getting caught lying or worse yet taking something got you a bit more than being called a liar.

I know that it may be generalizing a bit with regards to who might be doing this but I'll bet the odds are that the thief is not in his/her late thirties or older. I'm sure the CGNr's out their who fall into that younger demographic will probably crap all over me but that is fine. If it makes you angry it is probably because you actually have character and resent being placed into a group with other idiots and for that I do apologize.

However, I have witnessed hundreds of people in that age group grow up and I can honestly say there has been a deterioration of character in that population in general. I'm afraid that missing tree stands will be the tip of the iceberg.

I fall into this generation, and I completely agree with what you said. Which is why I'm hoping I can change things for when I have kids. Growing up in the "Participation Ribbon" generation was terrible, because it was almost impossible to see personal achievement. That's apart of what I attach to the "deterioration of character", a lot of people my age don't understand the amount of work you need to personally put in to life to achieve things. So they don't understand the amount of work that goes into getting the money to buy a tree-stand and other hunting gear. I think though, there is a large portion of us, that are fed up with that side of our generation. So hopefully it wont repeat again.

 

[Jesuswon]

So I got off work early today and figured I'd go climb into one of my treestands for a couple of hours. I hike into my spot and lo and behold my stand is gone! The thieves missed two steps up in the tree but took the others, cut my cable lock and took the stand. Third one to be swiped now. Why is it that some hunter's have no respect for others, and feel the need to pilfer their equipment? I'm so friggin pissed off I don't know what I'd actually do if I caught one of these little pricks in the act.

why do people steal is more the question..nature of the beast..
dont worry,they will get whats coming to them..thats how things work,,in the meantime youre out a deer stand,,sucks!

 

[Kelly Timoffee]

This is not right , not at all!!!!

I cannot believe that you would put a warning sign.

Like breaking into a house and getting your balls chewed on by rover.If you didn't do what ya did than what happened wouldn't of happened!

Leave other peoples property alone, if you get hurt taking or destroying it, then you get what you deserve, plain and simple.

BIG sign attached to tree with tree stand in it reads:

"WARNING Tree stand protected from property theft by boobie traps. For your own safety LEAVE THE AREA IMMEDIATELY. DO NOT touch the tree. DO NOT climb the tree. DO NOT touch any part of the equipment. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. (Survivors will be prosecuted)."


Might deter the odd scum bag.

 

[klaus enuff]

this.

When will the older generation stop using "they aren't raised the way they used to be", seriously your parents said the exact same things about you as did theirs. Pull your heads outta your arses and realize there are good and bad people out there of all ages and stereotyping a certain age group doesn't negate the fact that it's quite possibly somebody your own age (and it's most likely is). It's the way you where raised and what moral code you live by that determines who you are as an individual not what decade you where born in.

Shifting the blame onto young people ( or any group) is an easy and mindless way to come up with a solution to a problem that you actually have no answer for.

 

[3macs1]

All the older gents who are blaming the new generation.

Don't be so quick to forget who raised them.

Yes and if I could do it over I would not make the same mistake twice. You wouild have to earn and work for everything you got in life like I did not have it handed to you.
If you think this generation doesn't have problems drop into a large factory and ask them what they are now doing to keep their plants running.
They are putting special packages together to keep their skilled workers after the age of 65 since the young guns and not all but a real high percentage don't want to work nor do they have the skills.
Had a good one last week, new class of heavy duty mechanics, went outside to change a starter on a large machine. One student totally pissed to think he was out in the rain and cold doing this. Well my friend big machines rarely get into shops so if you are going to be a heavy duty mechanic best get used to it.
Next day quit and put in a complaint for harrassing him in front of the class.
The world needs a good shake.

 

[ontario]

In stead of locking my stands up I simply place 2 rather short skyhook bolts into the tree. They dont hold weight very well and they are always near the top.

 

[dthunter]

LIl Juiced coupe, and some others:

Relax!

What Powdergun says is only"GENERALLY TRUE", generally, not totally, he even said that. READ THE POST! If you did, you would have no need to be offended, PERIOD!

If you had a three or four or more decades behind you, you would see that hes is more right than wrong. By a large margin!

There is a significant change/trend in respect and dignity that the younger generations are willing to give a "complete stranger, or thier property".

Hopefully that doesnt degrade more. For "any" generation.

If "any person that hasnt done anything disrespectful like this" gets offended by his post, just understand, its not "YOU" hes talking about.

I have noticed that most of the retorts that seem/appear like they are from younger generations show the typified responses:

Blame the parents, or, the older generation.

This is "THE" problem we are talking about, an attitude that reeks of "TOTAL REFUSAL TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY", at all costs!

REMEMBER if you havent done anthing like this, you have "NO NEED" to be offended! Just understand its an obvious trend. Do what we can to stop it.

I have a two year old son, and pray to GOD that he shows respect to his elders, and strangers property!

WE all know right from wrong, regaurdless of generation, esspecially in this "information age"

If you still choose to get offended, well, deal with it in a way that doesnt injur your self esteem!

I hope you understand we just dont like Vandals and thieves, regaurdless of age/generation.

Gone are the days when we could leave our homes, and vehicles unlocked with our valuables in them.

THERE, I am done my vent.

Have fun guys, and good hunting to all gunnutz!.................Of ALL GENERATIONS.