Why does everyone give the axis a hard time?

Put it this way, i wouldnt own one for recreational hunting but if I had my Last pay check an needed a Gun, ammo an some supplies for a rushed random 12 months bush... An Axis will do!

One i had played woth shot Factory into 1 inch. (308)

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For all who posted on this thread that said accuracy isn't everything....what the hell is the purpose of any Rifle but to deliver an aimed projectile as accurately as possible to its intend target?????? Get over yourselves.....The axis does that better that a lot of more pricey rifles so whats your problem???
Any comments about how it feels in your hands don't amount to crap if when you pull the trigger and your 3 shot group looks like a shotgun pattern. I've seen that with what lots of people think are the cream of the crop rifles.
As for falling apart the bunch of guys I know that have had axis's for multiple seasons shooting deer, coyotes etc.. Haven't seemed to have had any issues or complaints.

Again the adage "haters gonna hate" seems to apply nicely when it come to the axis. For all who have them keep shooting and smiling at the guy beside you at the range with his $1000 Remington rig that won't group as nice as your "POS" axis
 
DT741 said:
Why so much hate ?

Because gun snobs !

Thats it !
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You're a snob if you can afford better and choose not to shoot a "Bottom of the barrel" product???


DT741 said:
...or insist on shooting non coerosive premium 7.62x39 thru their supergrade SKS?
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For the most part... those that are choosing not to shoot a crappy Axis are also not shooting an SKS.
 
Why do people feel the need to go out and buy the cheapest plastic fantastic rifle on the planet, then come to a gun forum bragging it up and accuse everyone who owns better or doesn't like them of being a snob?
 
Snobs are the ones that mentioned they never owened one and aren't ever going too! Apparently their rifle skills are better than the poor little "POS" axis deserves. Or they deserve better a $300.00 accurate rifle??????

Defies logic IMO

Why do some think "save for something better" define better. My sons axis shoots as well or better than my model 11, my brothers parker hale, my Winchester 94's, my friends BAR,his A-bolt and 700 rem. So what the argument?
 
cdn1canhunt said:
For all who posted on this thread that said accuracy isn't everything....what the hell is the purpose of any Rifle but to deliver an aimed projectile as accurately as possible to its intend target?????? Get over yourselves.....The axis does that better that a lot of more pricey rifles so whats your problem???
Any comments about how it feels in your hands don't amount to crap if when you pull the trigger and your 3 shot group looks like a shotgun pattern. I've seen that with what lots of people think are the cream of the crop rifles.
As for falling apart the bunch of guys I know that have had axis's for multiple seasons shooting deer, coyotes etc.. Haven't seemed to have had any issues or complaints.

Again the adage "haters gonna hate" seems to apply nicely when it come to the axis. For all who have them keep shooting and smiling at the guy beside you at the range with his $1000 Remington rig that won't group as nice as your "POS" axis
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Accuracy isn't everything.

Imagine an accurate rifle that goes click instead of bang half the time, but shoots MOA when it does shoot.

How about an accurate rifle with a broken magazine tab, so it's a very awkward single shot.

How about an accurate rifle with a creepy trigger?

An accurate rifle with poorly placed optic base locations?

An accurate rifle with a stock which fits you horribly?

An accurate rifle with a broken sling stud, so you have to carry in-hand 100% of the time?

Of course accuracy isn't everything, as you know full well. You seem to be trying to justify your choice by casting aspersions on the choices of others.

PS: a Remington isn't a nice rig anymore.
 
cdn1canhunt said:
For all who posted on this thread that said accuracy isn't everything....what the hell is the purpose of any Rifle but to deliver an aimed projectile as accurately as possible to its intend target?????? Get over yourselves.....The axis does that better that a lot of more pricey rifles so whats your problem???
Any comments about how it feels in your hands don't amount to crap if when you pull the trigger and your 3 shot group looks like a shotgun pattern. I've seen that with what lots of people think are the cream of the crop rifles.
As for falling apart the bunch of guys I know that have had axis's for multiple seasons shooting deer, coyotes etc.. Haven't seemed to have had any issues or complaints.

Again the adage "haters gonna hate" seems to apply nicely when it come to the axis. For all who have them keep shooting and smiling at the guy beside you at the range with his $1000 Remington rig that won't group as nice as your "POS" axis
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Hahhahahaha, get over yourself?, I Love it!
"Accuracy isn't everything"........

Just like Fuel efficiency isn't everything, otherwise we'd all be heading into the bush with a Prius.

 
Bartledan said:
Accuracy isn't everything.

Imagine an accurate rifle that goes click instead of bang half the time, but shoots MOA when it does shoot.

How about an accurate rifle with a broken magazine tab, so it's a very awkward single shot.

How about an accurate rifle with a creepy trigger?

An accurate rifle with poorly placed optic base locations?

An accurate rifle with a stock which fits you horribly?

An accurate rifle with a broken sling stud, so you have to carry in-hand 100% of the time?

Of course accuracy isn't everything, as you know full well. You seem to be trying to justify your choice by casting aspersions on the choices of others.

PS: a Remington isn't a nice rig anymore.
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Bang on!
 
cdn1canhunt said:
Snobs are the ones that mentioned they never owened one and aren't ever going too! Apparently their rifle skills are better than the poor little "POS" axis deserves. Or they deserve better a $300.00 accurate rifle??????

Defies logic IMO

Why do some think "save for something better" define better. My sons axis shoots as well or better than my model 11, my brothers parker hale, my Winchester 94's, my friends BAR,his A-bolt and 700 rem. So what the argument?
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So I own one, and think it is cheaply made out of the cheapest materials, poorest ergonomics of any rifle in my safes, worst trigger out of any of my modern rifles, and on top of that it's ugly as hell.
I like 2 things about it.... It's light, and it shoots OK. It's not as good or better then the other budget rifles out there, it also doesn't shoot better then any of the other budget rifles and I have quite a few if them as well.
No snob, just fact.
 
Bartledan said:
Accuracy isn't everything.

Imagine an accurate rifle that goes click instead of bang half the time, but shoots MOA when it does shoot.
Send it back for warranty...all manufacturers have issues

How about an accurate rifle with a broken magazine tab, so it's a very awkward single shot.
Buy a new magazine. I had a lifter break in a model 94...got a new lifter

How about an accurate rifle with a creepy trigger?
Change it if you don't like it same as any other gun, at least you can some guns you can get replacements for

An accurate rifle with poorly placed optic base locations?
Com on man buy a EGW or cheap piccatinny rail $15.00

An accurate rifle with a stock which fits you horribly?
Why did you buy it then?

An accurate rifle with a broken sling stud, so you have to carry in-hand 100% of the time?
Epoxy it back in or get a new stock I've seen sling studs pull out of lots of different guns

Of course accuracy isn't everything, as you know full well. You seem to be trying to justify your choice by casting aspersions on the choices of others.

I never put any one down for owning any other firearm just saying the axis isn't the "POS" many make it out to be. Many other firearms have as many issues and many shoot more inaccurately than the axis.

PS: a Remington isn't a nice rig anymore.
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I don't disagree... But many others would!
 
Bartledan said:
Accuracy isn't everything.

Imagine an accurate rifle that goes click instead of bang half the time, but shoots MOA when it does shoot.

How about an accurate rifle with a broken magazine tab, so it's a very awkward single shot.

How about an accurate rifle with a creepy trigger?

An accurate rifle with poorly placed optic base locations?

An accurate rifle with a stock which fits you horribly?

An accurate rifle with a broken sling stud, so you have to carry in-hand 100% of the time?

Of course accuracy isn't everything, as you know full well. You seem to be trying to justify your choice by casting aspersions on the choices of others.

PS: a Remington isn't a nice rig anymore.
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This original quote was better, and spot on.....
 
you have to quit worrying about what other people think about your rifles

I always figure they are the same yahoos that buy a honda put a stupid wing and a tomato can mufler on it and pretend they are fast and furious
 
Amazing how most folks instantly bash anyone who doesn't like a product the other person owns. Then accuse them of ignorance.

Well, I have owned many budget rifles including the axle, and still say it is a POS. And yes, accuracy is not the only thing REQUIRED for a rifle, cheap or not. I don't care what color the rifle is, how much it costs, where it's made, or who made it. A $10,000 POS is still a POS, and the axle is a POS at any price.

If you can't afford more than what an axle costs new, then buy a quality firearm elsewhere! Why is that so offensive to some people?
 
Cleftwynd said:
Amazing how most folks instantly bash anyone who doesn't like a product the other person owns. Then accuse them of ignorance.

Well, I have owned many budget rifles including the axle, and still say it is a POS. And yes, accuracy is not the only thing REQUIRED for a rifle, cheap or not. I don't care what color the rifle is, how much it costs, where it's made, or who made it. A $10,000 POS is still a POS, and the axle is a POS at any price.

If you can't afford more than what an axle costs new, then buy a quality firearm elsewhere! Why is that so offensive to some people?
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Why is it so offensive to you, if some are overjoyed to own and shoot an accurate, inexpensive axis.....it's like calling a guys chevette a hunk of crap because you wouldn't drive one.
 
Why do people feel the "need" to bash other peoples choices, I own an Axle and love it. Period. I own others brands too, but I like my Axis ll in 30-06 with its Boyd's stock upgrade. That's me, I don't whine about others choices, some like Tacticool too, I don't ##### about them. Shooters are shooters, we need to encourage more activity in the sport. Most will buy an Axis to get started and them move up to a higher end anyways. Share the love.
 
cdn1canhunt said:
I don't disagree... But many others would!
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Personally, I buy my rifles to hunt.... and I hunt my rifles hard.... I would never buy a Salvage Axle for the same reason I don't buy a cheap compass, chinese hunting knife, cheaply made boots, dollar store flashlight etc.... I don;t need my gear letting me down when I need it most.....

You can say how accurate they are all day long (they aren't any more accurate than any other rifle), but it doesn't change the fact that the mag is held in place by a cheap piece of plastic, the stock is a cheap piece of plastic, the scope base setup is completely ridiculous, the finish is poor and rusts easily, the mag is completely flimsy and the sling studs are just plain terrible.

I don't trust my hunts to cheap $15 pic rails and I don't see why I should spend money on a rifle that should have come well set up in the first place....

This not to mention a bolt that cycles like peppermill and the fact that they use long action for everything.....

As for warranty, the best warranty is one that is never used.... hunting seasons are short... too short.... and I don't need my rifle sitting somewhere in some warranty center when I should be carrying it in the woods....
 
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