Why does everyone give the axis a hard time?

I guess that depends on what you consider budget. The Vanguard S2 is a budget rifle. The Tikka T3 is a budget rifle, etc....

Do you mean what is the best sub $1,000 rifle? Sub $600 rifle?

Sorry Cleftwynd, should have specified that. By budget I meant BUDGET.... the $350-450 ish range. I know at one point the Vanguard S2 could be had for $450 ish but typically it's in $600 + range and hands down best from that price down, and some above it too.

The cheap stuff.... Axis, 783 etc. And new stuff, not good used stuff in that price range. The best of the cheapest in you guys opinion.
 
I delayed buying a rifle for years and used a shotgun combo until I could afford a 30/30.

If you want to hunt stuff for 450 bucks a used 2 barrel combo will go a lot further than a savage axis.
 
I delayed buying a rifle for years and used a shotgun combo until I could afford a 30/30.

If you want to hunt stuff for 450 bucks a used 2 barrel combo will go a lot further than a savage axis.

My first hunting rifle cost me $239 plus tax but that was way back in 1976 which btw was three weeks pay back then.Yes I still have that Winchester model 70 in .30 06 and I'll take it to the grave with me.
All I'm saying is if I want to #### around with a cheap axis then so be it...Guns are fun...all guns...even Remingtons.. lol
 
Sorry Cleftwynd, should have specified that. By budget I meant BUDGET.... the $350-450 ish range. I know at one point the Vanguard S2 could be had for $450 ish but typically it's in $600 + range and hands down best from that price down, and some above it too.

The cheap stuff.... Axis, 783 etc. And new stuff, not good used stuff in that price range. The best of the cheapest in you guys opinion.

To be honest, I don't know how to answer that. The new not used limitation and the price limit leaves what, two rifles? Maybe three?

Let's just say I still own a 770, and have owned both the 783 and the Axis, and still would pick the Axis last. I would probably buy a T/C before any of them.

BTW, the 770 will never get sold, I don't hate anyone that much.
 
I loved my Axis. It was cheap, accurate and went bang when I pulled the trigger. It's simple to lighten up the trigger pull if you're able to use basic hand tools and for the four or five times a year I had it out it was everything I needed. Is it a Caddillac of hunting rifles? Fu<k no! Is it a Chevy of hunting rifles? Nope! What about Pontiac, you might ask? Sh!t no, son! But it's definitely the Geo of hunting rifles. And when you're looking for a point A to point B hunting rifle, this puppy delivers! That being said, though...I would probably give the Rem 783 a test drive before I committed.
 
To be honest, I don't know how to answer that. The new not used limitation and the price limit leaves what, two rifles? Maybe three?

Let's just say I still own a 770, and have owned both the 783 and the Axis, and still would pick the Axis last. I would probably buy a T/C before any of them.

BTW, the 770 will never get sold, I don't hate anyone that much.

Fair enough.

Ok, out of the Axis, 783 and Ruger American I'm guessing it would be the Ruger ? And then the dilemma I guess would be with the Ruger American you are into Vanguard S2 on sale territory. My head hurts now. :bangHead:

Awe screw it ... I'm just gonna look for the Vanguard S2 sale price when it pops up. Was hoping to find a good but cheap truck gun and was leaning toward looking into the American but I know the S2 kills em all for a few extra dollars. I feel better already. :d
 
For the extra couple hundred for the Vanguard, it's a big jump up in fit and finish. I love mine, the trigger is amazing for the money and the action feels better than my Rem700 and my buddy's Tikka T3. Well worth it if you can afford to dole out the extra Bennies.
 
I was blown away with the performance of my buddy's Axis, I was expecting ~1-2 MOA. I'm a terrible shot, but I managed to put my first 3 shots at ~ .5 MOA. Probably going to pick up a 22-250 myself, I don't mind the ergonomics or trigger.
 
It didn't really bother me either. I have large, strong hands so it actually took a bit of adjustment to get used to lighter trigger pulls. If you do want to lighten it up a bit, do a search on YouTube, there's lots of DIY videos.
 
Fair enough.

Ok, out of the Axis, 783 and Ruger American I'm guessing it would be the Ruger ? And then the dilemma I guess would be with the Ruger American you are into Vanguard S2 on sale territory. My head hurts now. :bangHead:

Awe screw it ... I'm just gonna look for the Vanguard S2 sale price when it pops up. Was hoping to find a good but cheap truck gun and was leaning toward looking into the American but I know the S2 kills em all for a few extra dollars. I feel better already. :d

Still have the 270 and 30'06 on sale for $499
http://www.cabelas.ca/product/66139/weatherby-vanguard-series-2-wby-x-blaze-bolt-action-rifle
 
A "true" Gunnut likes all guns..

Some a bit more than others but in the end all guns are cool.....Right?

Very true, I owned about 300 rifles in 41 years, they have all been interesting. But tge hated rifles most of all. Carcanos, Mosins, Rolling Blocks, cut up LE and my despised collection of 340s have been my greatest memories and exceeded my exceptions Brownings, Remington's, and a Cooper did what they were reputed to do but there was no real fun in it, no challenge.
 
I can pick up a rifle, mount it, cycle the bolt and drop the trigger... and immediately tell if we will become friends. Many rifles don't cut it at that very first stage, the Axis is one of those. The next stage is getting it to shoot well, part of which is the rifle, the greater part is my loading and shooting ability. I have only sold two rifles because they couldn't shoot (with full disclosure).
 
My only complaint with the Axis I had would be the pistol grip. It seemed long and far from the trigger. The 770 had a sloppy bolt. I have yet to try the 783 or the Patriot. Although the Patriot seems to add eye candy features as a selling point.
 
I owned one. I would never consider a second. Cheap loose stock. Sloppy bolt, mediocre accuracy and i could see the rifling on the outside of the barrel.

Also ypu can pick up a sporter mauser for a similar price or a sporter enfield for half that and get twice the rifle and quality.
 
What about the TC Venture?

Kurgan,

Had a TC Venture. An interesting design and ergonomic for sure. I loved it and found it to be very accurate. I became truly enamored of the rifle and its design and went looking to buy additional barrels (to literally eliminate the need for 4 of the rifles in the safe), but there were none available in Canada except in 300 WM. I scoured the country only to be told some may be coming in 'next year'. Sold it because of this. I don't know if barrel availability has improved since 2 years ago or not...
 
This was the best $300 I ever spent on a rifle, Tradex gem, 1944 commercial '96 husky in 8mm. High polish blue, very smooth action, Weaver k4, stock fits me great, shoots great and I can load it with 125gr to 200gr pills for whatever we have in Canada.
 
I will not recommend it, in the world of entry level rifles, choice like a Wheaterby S2 is a lot better... JP.
 
Kurgan,

Had a TC Venture. An interesting design and ergonomic for sure. I loved it and found it to be very accurate. I became truly enamored of the rifle and its design and went looking to buy additional barrels (to literally eliminate the need for 4 of the rifles in the safe), but there were none available in Canada except in 300 WM. I scoured the country only to be told some may be coming in 'next year'. Sold it because of this. I don't know if barrel availability has improved since 2 years ago or not...

No, it hasn't I didn't buy for the same reason, you mean Dimension right? Prohunter is another pain for barrels in some calibres.
 
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