why does kimber hate canada?

frward said:
SO what kind of business model fit you mr freedom venture:)
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Are you trolling or just uneducated as to how much Sean has given to the shooting community in Canada?

It is non of your business as to what his business model is. If you read his response, he said it was their business model and if you read further on James from TSE filled in how they treat export orders.
 
ian_in_vic said:
To quote the CEO of Remington who was asked to support a Canadian pro- firearms group, "Canada is less than 4 percent of our business, frankly we don't care". This was before USDOS started to invent new reasons not to export to Canada every week. We are statistically insignificant. I'm pretty sure that somewhere in Texas there's a dealer who sells as many Kimbers in a month as Canada sells in a year. Maybe there's one who clears as many in a week.
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i love it when this quote comes up, that guy was canned, and iirc he was a VP of something....and Rmeington is imported by a distributor not wholesaled directly so whose fault is it that Remington is good or bad in Canadians eyes...
 
ian_in_vic said:
To quote the CEO of Remington who was asked to support a Canadian pro- firearms group, "Canada is less than 4 percent of our business, frankly we don't care". This was before USDOS started to invent new reasons not to export to Canada every week. We are statistically insignificant. I'm pretty sure that somewhere in Texas there's a dealer who sells as many Kimbers in a month as Canada sells in a year. Maybe there's one who clears as many in a week.
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Ian,

That story about Remington is an urban myth. Didn't happen, especially since this version involves the CEO! If you do a search here on CGN you'll find multiple threads dealing with it.

As for Kimber...TSE got their number. I like their pistols, but over the years their prices have risen rather substantially. Originally they were well made pistols offered at reasonable prices. As their popularity rose and demand went up, the price seemed to increase disproportionately. I think there are better values in a 1911 out there.
 
heavenIsAlie said:
facts were, we dont really get alot of kimbers up here, ever

reasons are that they have a very odd way of dealing with foreign orders compared to other companies
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That may be, and they have the right to handle their business the way they choose, but they do not hate Canada.
 
I just bought 2 Kimbers (Custom II tle/rl and Gold Combat II) from Bashaw Sports in Alberta, and at decent prices to boot. They still have some left, check out their website.

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X-man said:
Ian,

That story about Remington is an urban myth. Didn't happen, especially since this version involves the CEO! If you do a search here on CGN you'll find multiple threads dealing with it.
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Funny, I was sure I read the post here by one of the people involved in the conversation, along with a recomendation to take a look at Tikka (maybe Tony could confirm or deny that). Many people think that quote was an insult - it wasn't, it was however the truth of the situation. We need to realize that even if the entire population of Canada were shooters, we'd still be just at the bottom edge of a desirable market. The same economic issues that cause issues with other products have equal or greater effect when it comes to firearms. How many times have you seen a post here where someone says, I'd buy one of (fill in the blank) if they bring it in for under $800. Canadians on the whole are under paid, over taxed, and enjoy a lower standard of living than most Europeans, and most Americans. Less discretionary income does not make for a desireable market place. Hence Kimber's minimum order strategy is a hurdle for our importers and retailers, and works perfectly for American retailers.If you sell $5,000 worth a month of Kimber product their system isn't an issue - if you sell $5,000 a year it's a deal breaker. It seems many of us fail to appreciate the market forces that affect our shooting sports in Canada.
One final thought, when STI stopped selling pistols in California, due to the regulatory mess that is gun control in California, they walked away from a market several times the size of the Canadian market, it hasn't really hurt them, since the volume they did sell in California is now sold in other US markets.
 
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