Why doesn't anyone talk about Sako TRG-22s anymore?
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I just LOVE mine!! Like others have already mentioned, there is nothing to change or tinker with (which I usually like to do to all of my guns), it just shoots all the time; -40, -20 in snow storm (pics as proof), +25 on gravel pad. Only thing to change is to get better glass!! It shoots 5 rounds in a thumbnail from the bench with a bipod and a sock at a 100m every time. I won the .308 tac shoot in Valcartier with it (gongs from 500-1050m). If I get rid of it, it'll be for a TRG-42 in 300 win mag. And it cost me only $2900!!
If you go back in time that is what they were selling for new. TRG's and other euro rifles have been increasing every year in price from the importer/manufacturer and still are. It is better than putting money in the bank if you are smart with your purchases.
I really like the TRG rifles but you don't hear much about them as they are a military precision rifle that these days appeal more to collectors. Especially in the .308 and less calibers. There are a couple off the shelf rifles that shoot exceptionally and are a lot less expensive. The 5R milspec comes to
mind as does the new version of the SSG3000. But... There is the military rifle coolness factor to the TRG. It's a beautiful rifle and one that stands out in any collection.
I'm no doubt going to get flamed for this but... It's obsolete especially in the .308 and less calibers. So is the SSG3000 I just bought. As military rifles the non 300WM, 338 etc versions are outdated. The AR10, SR25 etc has replaced their previous intended role. Semi autos shooting sub .5 moa have become the norm. Canadians have used the AR10 since Adghanistan, The SR25 has also been a predominant figure on the DM role. Snipers are using 338Lapus or 50BMG with precision backup by the semi auto 308 rifles. The UK adopted the LMT MWS as did New Zealand. Many police forces are also replacing their bolt actions for semi auto.
Again beautiful rifles. Like the SSG3000 I have always wanted one. Only recently though has the SSG3000 come down to
a price point where I could justify it. The Sako TRG is still in the price point where I couldn't justify it. As for just shooting, customs various off the shelf rifles now available that shoot in that league at very reasonable prices along with semi autos that are replacing it's previous role are the reasons they t talked about as much.
mind as does the new version of the SSG3000. But... There is the military rifle coolness factor to the TRG. It's a beautiful rifle and one that stands out in any collection.
I'm no doubt going to get flamed for this but... It's obsolete especially in the .308 and less calibers. So is the SSG3000 I just bought. As military rifles the non 300WM, 338 etc versions are outdated. The AR10, SR25 etc has replaced their previous intended role. Semi autos shooting sub .5 moa have become the norm. Canadians have used the AR10 since Adghanistan, The SR25 has also been a predominant figure on the DM role. Snipers are using 338Lapus or 50BMG with precision backup by the semi auto 308 rifles. The UK adopted the LMT MWS as did New Zealand. Many police forces are also replacing their bolt actions for semi auto.
Again beautiful rifles. Like the SSG3000 I have always wanted one. Only recently though has the SSG3000 come down to
a price point where I could justify it. The Sako TRG is still in the price point where I couldn't justify it. As for just shooting, customs various off the shelf rifles now available that shoot in that league at very reasonable prices along with semi autos that are replacing it's previous role are the reasons they t talked about as much.
There are only 2 rifles that match up to the TRG22 for it's intended purpose. The AI and the PGW. While there are many accurate factory rifles out there, very few have been proven to perform as reliably and consistently at those 3.
As for the comment that the .308 is outdated(it may be my least favorite calibre BTW), I believe it serves a very important role in a medium range military application. It's not going away any time soon.
As for the comment that the .308 is outdated(it may be my least favorite calibre BTW), I believe it serves a very important role in a medium range military application. It's not going away any time soon.
The .308 is a reliable 800m cartridge, much beyond that there are far superior options. 1.5 miles eh? 1/2 moa as well no doubt...
and AI of course
epoxy7 isn't saying .308/7.62 NATO is outdated, he is saying the 7.62 bolt action rifle in military service acting as a primary sniper rifle is. The rifles that are providing that service are now semi-auto.
With a max. effective range of 800m (paper punching excluded), there are more effective calibers for work beyond that.
I am of course a huge fan of both bolt action tactical precision rifles and the .308 round and own a number of nice examples of fine rifles chambered so but I have to say that Epoxy7 is correct - the bolt action sniper rifle delivering a 7.62 projectile is on the way out.
My mistake, I misunderstood the comment.
You may be right about the 7.62 becoming a little outdated but I'm not here to be some sort of sniper, I'm here to put holes in paper or to make some steel ring. .308 is easy to load for and is rather inexpensive compared to the other chambers. I will be happy to stick with the caliber.
That's not what Epoxy7 said though. Read up a few posts before yours.
Sorry I was talking bolt gun chamberings.
.308 semis like the AR10 look like awesome rifles but it just doesn't feel as meticulous as a bolt gun when going for small groups at the range. Hard to explain.
.308 semis like the AR10 look like awesome rifles but it just doesn't feel as meticulous as a bolt gun when going for small groups at the range. Hard to explain.
I should also add that I'm not aware of a single range (civilian) in NB that allows for anything more than a 900m target. The 900m / 1000yrd seems like pretty standard distance for the .308 so I think it would be overkill in powder / bullets / brass etc to jump to a larger caliber.
I like bolt guns as well. Heck I just bought another one. There is still an acuracy advantage although that seems to be less than what many think. Plus in terms of weight the bolt action has generally had the ability to come in a fair bit lighter if needed. The G2 DPMS however has added that ability to the 308 semi and as it's not well known yet it's impact hasn't been seen.
That being said the TRG21/22 was mostly popular for a few reasons. The first being a high precision rifle, Second excellently made piece of art and finally the HK factor. IE it was current bleeding edge military gear. You see it in movies/TV and in video games. When you see the military units with them then you want one too!! Of course this includes high price and low availability. IE the HK factor.
Today it's 338 Lapua or 50BMG rifles for bolt guns or semi auto precision in 308. In 2008 I bought an Armalite DND AR10. Being used by Canadian forces since 2004. My choices for AR10 or AR308 back then were Armalite, DPMS and maybe KAC. That was it. Today every company seems to be bringing out an AR308 and it became the DM rifle in the Sandbox which has definately led to it's popularity.
Again the Sako is a beautiful rifle. I would be proud to own one.
