Why doesn't my shotgun work?

Wow 10 minutes and $5 worth of cleaner, I'm in the wrong business.

We completely strip the gun down to its parts. It then goes into our large sonic cleaner. From there we scrub each part and grease the parts that need it before putting it back together.

We charge $70 for a bolt action, $135 for a semi auto

Shop rate is $90 an hour
 
Anyone can give a gun a quick rinse and lube but a complete tear down clean is worth every penny of the $135 and well beyond the ability of most shooters.

Im all for people charging as much as a consumer is willing to pay because I believe in capitalism. But a complete tear down of a Mossberg 935 is very simple. And Im not talking about a field strip....Im talking a complete tear down of every pin and spring.

But something tells me that by the looks of that gun, the owner was likely a useless tool incapable of doing of much on his own
 
Im all for people charging as much as a consumer is willing to pay because I believe in capitalism. But a complete tear down of a Mossberg 935 is very simple. And Im not talking about a field strip....Im talking a complete tear down of every pin and spring.

But something tells me that by the looks of that gun, the owner was likely a useless tool incapable of doing of much on his own

The gun smiths that I know who offer this service charge a flat rate rather than charge by the gun type or make. Any time I take one of my over and under guns completely apart for cleaning, I doubt if I I'm finished it in less than and hour. I'm not hurrying and charging for the service though. If a gun owner isn't capable of doing the job himself then I don't know why he would object to the gun smith making a profit from doing it for him.
 
If a gun owner isn't capable of doing the job himself then I don't know why he would object to the gun smith making a profit from doing it for him.

This is fair enough....someone has to pay someone else’s bills and Im glad that its not me. I have my own bills to pay. Im happy I learned how to tie my own shoes as child. That brain teaser developed my critical thinking skills well enough to overcome the obstacles of maintaining a firearm
 
This fall we had two A400 shotguns fail to function while waterfowl hunting, because they were not properly serviced and maintained. I don't see the point of spending that kind of cash, and not taking 15 minutes to service it periodically. I take the time after every hunt, and my SX-3 hasn't given me an issue in the five years that I have used it, despite having water running out of it after hunting in the rain.
 
Some comments come from people with no clue how a business works. The initial call could be 5-10 minutes, the drop off could be 5-10 minutes, the other call you receive from some guy looking for an obsolete part grabs another 5, pick up is another 10 as buddy tries to get a discount or get a free lesson on maintenance how to. Then of course there is shop supplies, equipment, tools, maintenance, shop clean up all taking time and money. It is also nice to work in a heated shop with lights and power for equipment.

I do all my own maintenance because I enjoy it and yes it does save money but I wouldn't be doing a complete strip down of someone else's guns for less than $150.
 
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Some comments come from people with no clue how a business works. The initial call could be 5-10 minutes, the drop off could be 5-10 minutes, the other call you receive from some guy looking for an obsolete part grabs another 5, pick up is another 10 as buddy tries to get a discount or get a free lesson on maintenance how to. Then of course there is shop supplies, equipment, tools, maintenance, shop clean up all taking time and money. It is also nice to work in a heated shop with lights and power for equipment.

I do all my own maintenance because I enjoy it and yes it does save money but I wouldn't be doing a complete strip down of someone else's guns for less than $150.

Maybe those "some people" you speak of know exaclty how business works and the correct statement should have been maybe some people have no clue how firearms work.

The only evidence this thread has produced is the ladder.....
 
Can't fault people for not being mechanically inclined or intuitive.

Deductive reason is an acquired skill now adays


I'm not sure what you mean by deductive reasoning but I'll try to draw an analogy that more people can relate to.
I clean my own guns but I'm not capable, motivated or equipped to overhaul the engine in my pick up truck, should I expect a shop to do it for free?
 
I've done both....and while neither was that much of a challenge, I can assure you that rebuilding an engine is slighly more difficult


My point is simply that if you aren't going to do it yourself then why would you think some one else should do it for free for you. I'm not talking about you specifically but some guys here seem to think that gunsmiths shouldn't charge for their services.
 
My point is simply that if you aren't going to do it yourself then why would you think some one else should do it for free for you. I'm not talking about you specifically but some guys here seem to think that gunsmiths shouldn't charge for their services.

I agree with you which is why I said that people can spend their money how they wish and tradesman can charge whatever someone is willing to pay. My point is that if the gun had been maintained, which only requires a punch and 5-10 mins of time, there would be zero reason to have to go to a gunsmith. Basic cleaning of a firearm is taught during the safety course, is included in every gun owners manual and youtube has a video on just about anything. Firearms maintenance is a responsibility that comes with gun ownership. If a person cant figure that out....there are likely a lot more issues going on in that persons life. Not someone I would share a blind with, thats for sure!
 
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