why iron sights?

Put it this way, back in 1920's, 30's, 40's folks where using Iron / Aperture sights, and the target for Rim fire was out at 200 yards. :)

Also I have to agree...a Red Dot is the way to go, for close, and quick stuff. :)
 
Calum said:
Put it this way, back in 1920's, 30's, 40's folks where using Iron / Aperture sights, and the target for Rim fire was out at 200 yards. :)

Also I have to agree...a Red Dot is the way to go, for close, and quick stuff. :)
I often shoot at 200 meters with my match rifles!

It really wakes the guys up at the range when you start dinging the 200 meter chicken with an iron sighted 22 offhand.:D

Cat
 
JPDubois said:
I find that a low power scope does it for me ... but in my case it s an eye sight problem ... if I focus on the rear sight I loose focus on the front one and vice versa ... It takes so much of my concentration that I eventually loose sight of the target, which is not a good thing when the purpose of the exercise is to hit the target.

I hear ya!

I need my reading glasses to see the rear site
I can see the front site fine but...
I need a pair of bino's to see the target ;)

I get along just fine with peeps thou :dancingbanana:
 
I tried using my old Swede military sight rifle last fall for hunting and I admit, I passed up a shot at a deer because I couldn't get lined up fast enough with them old sights and my eyes didn't get any younger. So now I'm gonna try a Williams FP rear and Fire sight front [optic red dot]. The trick will be finding the correct rear aperature. Bigger is probably better in this case. If this doesn't work on my sporterized Swede, I'll slap on the EO Tech. Either way, for bush hunting and where most shots are 50 meters or under, irons or red dots are best for the both eyes open approach.

I still use my scoped rifle for long shots for any situation beyond 100 meters when hunting.
 
300Spartans said:
I use "irons" all the time for my shooting practice. There's nothing like weekend with a brick of .22s and an old Cooey on the farmyard.:)
Ain't that the truth.

Still got my Cooey 39 single shot bolt action I had since I was 10. Had to put an inch more on the butt, but she still shoots where I put em. :)
 
canuckhunter said:
I tried using my old Swede military sight rifle last fall for hunting and I admit, I passed up a shot at a deer because I couldn't get lined up fast enough with them old sights and my eyes didn't get any younger. So now I'm gonna try a Williams FP rear and Fire sight front [optic red dot]. The trick will be finding the correct rear aperature. Bigger is probably better in this case. If this doesn't work on my sporterized Swede, I'll slap on the EO Tech. Either way, for bush hunting and where most shots are 50 meters or under, irons or red dots are best for the both eyes open approach.

I still use my scoped rifle for long shots for any situation beyond 100 meters when hunting.

I can sure help you with this one.
Take out aperature & throw over shoulder..
you are now good to go!

You'd be surprised how accurate you can be with that huge hole in the back,
try it :)
 
art.h said:
Basicly it's eye sight alignment, because you have three vertical planes front sight-- rear sight and target it forces you to get the right eye location for a correct sight target picture, that is why a receiver or tang mounted rear sight was the choice of sharp shooters and snipers in the past. It can be explained by geometry. The advantage of scopes is magnification but many shooters do not realize that you can look down the scope at different angles by not making sure your eye placement is exactly the same each round, this causes your group to open up.
This is why some scope shooters resort to placing a small aperature on their shooting glasses, this creates the third vertical plane to assure proper alignment target, retical sight plane and eye. Some short gun action shooters use this concept for fast target acquistions.
You can verify this by placing a scoped rifle and sight it on a target at 100yds and sand bag in place then slowly raise your eye the cross hair will move location on target same if you move eye to either side.
This is why some people shoot better than others, they have learned to use an old term 'shoulder' the gun consistently and thus removed one of the variables that spoils tight groups

You're describing parallax here. Scopes with an AO can be adjusted to eliminate this.

I think the key, really, to iron sights is their simplicity. Scoped setups are more comples and have more fail points. Other than that, all the other points in either favour boil down to personal preference.
 
I personally prefer peep sights. As was already said look through the rear sight(peep) put the front sight on the target and fire. that quick and that easy. I do have scoped rifles, but they don't see as much hunting time as my peep sights. Most of my deer hunting is inside 100 to 150 yards. If I am going to be sitting on the edge of fields, my scoped 270 is with me. In the bush sneaking around my peep sighted 356. My 9422 has peeps the same as my 356 makes for a great way to practice at a reasonable price.
 
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