t-star said:if you reload, and buy in thousand round lots, it's not all that that different- the powder charge is the same, now that winchester has cahnged to the small primer, that's the same and your slugs about 10 bucks /thousand more- so get into reloading- ie for 9 i use a 130 grain slug, small pistol primer, and 5 grains of 231, for 45 it's a 200 grain , 6 grains( what's an extra grain of powder cost?) and the primers are a few extra bucks per thousand




























