There is always at least 3-4 of these on EE at any one time. A little troubling as Im thinking of buying an Viper HS or HST and they share many components. Is there an issue with these PSTs or Vortex Vipers in general as there are always so many of them on sale or are people just realizing they don't need the illuminated reticles?
Why is everyone selling their Viper PST?
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Schecter 81
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If I had to guess, it would be that they make a fantastic starting optic. Especially for the long range rig. Once a guy gets into it and decides that he wants to invest the money, he sells it and buys a Nightforce or S&B. Thats why I have sold two. Both got upgraded to Nightforces. My .308 still wears a 4-16 PST until I can justify spending the money on another Nightforce. Likely the SHV.
I was wondering the same, there have been quite a bit on the EE. I did pm one seller to ask why and his reason was touchy eye relief. I have a PST in FFP and very happy with it, glass is crisp, tracking is spot on, lifetime warranty no matter what and it didn't cost 2500. I found the eye relief touchy at first but got used to it and the ring for adjusting zoom is quite stiff which I have found with any viper. I'm not saying that I would never own a night force or an S&B, but not anytime soon and it would have to be a hell of a deal.
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That is exactly the situation that I find myself in. I have a Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50 FFP that is a great scope (it is mounted on a custom Remington 700 chambered in .260Rem). At that price point, it would be hard to beat it, (Sightron SIII's also very highly recommended on this forum, but Vortex Scopes are much more widely available and have become much more common.) but, as Schecter pointed out, I plan to upgrade from my PST to a NightForce eventually. When I do put mine up for sale on EE, it will be a terrific scope for the next user.
I think that people often buy a Vortex because it appears to offer a lot for the money (FFP, illumination, reticle choice etc). As those purchasers spend more time shooting LR they realise that they need / want different (note, I didn't say 'better') and look to do so. A common error I think people make is to purchase too little magnification and also to purchase FFP with Xmas tree reticles when they want to see bullet holes at 300 and their shooting does not lend itself to ranging/holdovers. Think it thru - you spent 95% of your shooting time at a range punching paper at 300m; which works best a Viper FFP with max 14 power or a 8-32x56 Sightron Siii ??
Mauser GDog
CGN frequent flyer
All of the above, plus I think they sell a LOT of their scope to CGN'ers which means inevitably there will always be some on the EE.
The important thing is you don't see many people complaining about them. I'll never sell my 1-4, for the value I think it's worth holding onto even after I upgrade...but I'm a horder!
The important thing is you don't see many people complaining about them. I'll never sell my 1-4, for the value I think it's worth holding onto even after I upgrade...but I'm a horder!
This was the case for me also, I've had 5 PST's, still have two. Been upgrading slowly to S&B and NF. The two I have left are the 2.5-10 and for the money there hard to beat (especially when you buy them used) . My biggest pet peeve of the PST is the ZeroStop, its a piss poor design IMO. I find the turrets move a little too easy also, most of the time when I pull the rifle out of the bag they have moved and often move while carrying the rifle slung. Still great for the money thou no doubt. I've been meaning to pick up a 1-4 for my plinker 22 for awhile now.
I've used the Vortex no BS warranty twice myself out of the 7 vortex optics that I've had and while the process was hassle free it is a pretty high failure rate. My buddy just bought a Vortex brand new and it is going back for warranty also.
I agree
Having spent quite a bit of time behind both the Vortex PST 6-24 FFP and the Sightron 6-24 FFP I would recommend the Sightron every time. The only reason I went with the PST the first time is because of the zerostop but after seeing how flaky it was and not using it anyway the Sightron beats it in every other way. Sightron has much better value per $ with the higher magnification scopes
