why M14 instead on AR15 version in .308

[heavenIsAlie]

im curious, you see alot of marksmen in the US forces (im assuming these guys are the designated squad marksman but not sure) with the M14

i was curious why they picked that over a AR variant in .308, aside from the fact that they have a bunch already so all they had to do was acurize them

 

[BBq_Woa!]

because they need reliable guns.

 

[(Ronin)]

Just a matter of already having them on hand.

 

[heavenIsAlie]

because they need reliable guns.

if that was the issue then they wouldnt issue the rest of the troops with ARs

 

[Benito]

if that was the issue then they wouldnt issue the rest of the troops with ARs

I don't think that he was trying to say that the AR was flat out unreliable, just that there are better options out there. And I doubt that reliability is the primary and sole criteria for selection. There is logistics, cost, lobbying, etc.
This doesn't just go for small arms. Same goes for body armor, vehicles, etc. Being military issue doesn't make it the best out there.

 

[Scarecrow]

if that was the issue then they wouldnt issue the rest of the troops with ARs

308 AR's are not 5.56, they arent as reliable as there smaller relations.

 

[CZ85Combat]

Just a matter of already having them on hand.

X2 Agreed

Might as well use the one in stock before getting new ones
Especially when they first needed them, it was a quick requirement, no time to go try to get something new

 

[Assyrian]

Don't weapon systems need Military Approval.
The M14 has been around forever and lots of them everywhere.....Is there a .308 AR rifle that has D.o.D approval for issue to the troops? One manufacturer? or many? Maybe not many available?

 

[Armedsask]

I think it basically comes down to the M14 already being in the system.

 

[mt84]

The Marine Corp are replacing their M-14 DMR with the MK-11 (SR-25). But replacing them takes time....

 

[heavenIsAlie]

308 AR's are not 5.56, they arent as reliable as there smaller relations.

ah ok, i thought they had the .308s bugs ironed out so they were on par with 5.56

 

[Fenix.NZ]

knight armament SR25 / mk110 rifles are beginning to be issued in larger numbers throughout the marines as far as i know, perhaps army too.
theres your .308 AR right there coming into service

as for a comment on 5.56mm ar's being more reliable than the .308 .. i read an article where it was stated that 19% of troops claimed their M4 jammed during a firefight .. if i can find the article ill post it to back up this comment. but that doesnt really boast reliability in my books

 

[Assyrian]

knight armament SR25 / mk110 rifles are beginning to be issued in larger numbers throughout the marines as far as i know, perhaps army too.

That is the one I know of... If that is the only one, it is obvious to see why the M14 outnumbers any .308 AR platform tenfold. Just the sheer volume available of the M14.

 

[Fenix.NZ]

Yup, quantity . and i think Smiths and whichever other companys do them up for the forces can accurize the m14 for a fraction of the price of an SR25

 

[kwonnypooh]

i think because the round it use. in MOUT operation you need something that will go through wall and other things, such as car, doors. since m14 been in service more than close to 40 years they use to have alot of them but not anymore also use 308 that in the system .finally, m14 system is more reliable than m16 system (dont ask! but i never had SP on my m14)

 

[Fenix.NZ]

deh ? .. m14 and 7.62 chambered AR's both use the same rounds?
i think im missing the point you're trying to make kwonny

 

[phatns2pid]

deh ? .. m14 and 7.62 chambered AR's both use the same rounds?
i think im missing the point you're trying to make kwonny

I think kwonny just missed a key part of the thread subject.

 

[Fenix.NZ]

I think kwonny just missed a key part of the thread subject.

haha so i am smarter than i look ! i was worried for a sec

 

[C Broad Arrow]

Sometimes it is better not to have to choose... just buy both...they have different roles...

 

[Fenix.NZ]

a little .308 AR gun #### for everyone

i like the SR25/MK110 - but not the price! lol

enjoy